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The discussion revolves around proving that two complex functions, G and H, defined on different intervals but equal to the complex exponential function, are not homotopic in the punctured complex plane (C - {0}). The participants explore the implications of Cauchy's Theorem and the concept of singularities in complex analysis.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests finding a complex function that demonstrates the difference in path integrals for G and H, emphasizing the importance of singularities.
  • Another participant proposes using the function 1/z, which has a singularity at 0, to explore the integrals along the two paths defined by G and H.
  • There is a suggestion to compute the winding numbers around the origin for the two curves to further investigate their homotopy properties.

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Participants appear to agree on the need to analyze the singularity at 0 and the implications for the path integrals, but there is no consensus on the proof or the specific approach to take.

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The discussion involves assumptions about the nature of singularities and the conditions under which two curves can be considered homotopic. The dependence on the properties of the chosen complex function and the specific paths taken is also noted.

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Thanks in advance for your time and all the wonderful previous answers I've received lurking on this site - its been great!


Anyway I have two functions G:[0,2pi] --> Complex Plane and
H:[0,4pi] --> Complex Plane

Both functions are equal to exp(it). (The complex exponential function w/ argument it).

I am told that these functions are not homotopic over the region C - {0} and asked for a proof.

Another hint is to use Cauchy's Theorem which says that if two curves are homotopic their integrals are equivalent.

Any suggestions?
 
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Hi MurraySt! :smile:

It seems that you need to find a complex function [itex]f:\mathbb{C}\setminus\{0\}\rightarrow \mathbb{C}[/itex], such that the two path integrals do not have the same value.

Furthermore, something special must happen in 0. If the function f can be analytically extended to 0, then the two integrals are equal. So there must be some kind of singularity in 0.

So, pick the easiest function which has a singularity in 0 and try it!
 
Thanks for the fast reply.

By singularity you mean not defined at 0? Such as 1/z?
 
MurraySt said:
Thanks for the fast reply.

By singularity you mean not defined at 0? Such as 1/z?

Yes, a singularity is (roughly) a point where the function is not defined. And 1/z was exactly the example I was looking for!

What happens if you integrate 1/z with respect to these two paths?
 
MurraySt said:
Thanks in advance for your time and all the wonderful previous answers I've received lurking on this site - its been great!


Anyway I have two functions G:[0,2pi] --> Complex Plane and
H:[0,4pi] --> Complex Plane

Both functions are equal to exp(it). (The complex exponential function w/ argument it).

I am told that these functions are not homotopic over the region C - {0} and asked for a proof.

Another hint is to use Cauchy's Theorem which says that if two curves are homotopic their integrals are equivalent.

Any suggestions?

Try computing the winding numbers around the origin of these two curves
 

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