Complex conjugate an independent variable?

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The discussion centers on the use of complex variables z and z* as independent variables in mathematical analysis, particularly in differentiation and integration. It is established that while z and z* are not independent in the traditional sense, they are linearly independent, allowing for the use of partial derivatives with respect to each. The integration over both variables is interpreted as covering the entire complex space, with the area element expressed as dzd\bar{z} equating to -2i times the standard area element. This formalism is crucial for understanding complex functions and their properties.

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It's very commong to use z and z* as two independent variables, differentiating with respect to one while keeping the other constant. Can you please give me some intuitive insight into this method, and why it works so well? Because every time I see this my first thought is that z and z* are NOT independent, there is a very clear transformation from one to the other...

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Chen
 
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And also, when I see an integration being done over both z and z*, with the integrals being one-dimensional (as far as I can tell, no boundaries are given), am I to understand that this is simply a formal way to say that the integration is done over the whole complex space?
 
To give a concrete example to my last question, take a look here, at the second identity:
http://www.pact.cpes.sussex.ac.uk/~markh/Teaching/RQF3/node22.html
(this is actually exactly what I'm dealing with)
 
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Chen said:
It's very commong to use z and z* as two independent variables, differentiating with respect to one while keeping the other constant. Can you please give me some intuitive insight into this method, and why it works so well? Because every time I see this my first thought is that z and z* are NOT independent, there is a very clear

Indeed, z and \bar{z} are not independent, but they are linear independent. The partial derivatives \partial /\partial z and \partial /\partial\bar{z} measures the orientation-preservering and orientation-reversing parts of a complex function. They can be defined as

\frac{\partial f}{\partial z} = \lim_{r\rightarrow 0}\frac{1}{2\pi}\int_0^{2\pi}\frac{f(z+re^{it})-f(z)}{re^{it}}dt

\frac{\partial f}{\partial\bar{z}} = \lim_{r\rightarrow 0}\frac{1}{2\pi}\int_0^{2\pi}\frac{f(z+re^{it})-f(z)}{re^{-it}}dt
 
Chen said:
And also, when I see an integration being done over both z and z*, with the integrals being one-dimensional (as far as I can tell, no boundaries are given), am I to understand that this is simply a formal way to say that the integration is done over the whole complex space?

Yes. dzd\bar{z} is nothing but -2i times the usual area element. The calculation goes like this:

dzd\bar{z} = dz\wedge d\bar{z} = (dx+idy)\wedge(dx-idy) = dx\wedge dx -2i\, dx\wedge dy + dy\wedge dy = -2i\, dx\wedge dy = -2i\, dxdy[/itex]
 
Hmm, pardon my ignorance, but what does that wedge stand for?

Thank you
 
It is anticommutative multiplication, a\wedge b = -b\wedge a. It is usually called exterior product.
 
not necessarily, the sign depends on the degrees of the differential forms, it's positive if it deg(da)*deg(db)=even and else is minus.
 
It depends on how you think about it. Sure, we have

a\wedge (b\wedge c) = (b\wedge c)\wedge a

But that is only because

a\wedge b\wedge c = -b\wedge a\wedge c = b\wedge c\wedge a

The reason to have commuting higher order forms is that such an operation is composed of an even number of anticommuting operations on one-forms.
 

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