Complex Conjugate Vector Space

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The discussion revolves around the properties of a vector space defined by complex-valued functions on the real line, specifically focusing on the condition that for all real numbers t, the function satisfies f(-t) = \overline{f(t)}. Participants are exploring the implications of this condition and how it relates to the structure of the vector space.

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  • Participants express confusion regarding the notation and the implications of the condition f(-t) = \overline{f(t)}. They question the nature of the functions involved and whether certain properties hold, such as closure under addition and scalar multiplication.

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Some participants have provided clarifications about the nature of the functions and the definitions involved, particularly regarding even and odd functions. However, confusion remains about how to demonstrate closure under the operations defined for the vector space.

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There is an emphasis on understanding the notation and the definitions provided in the context of the problem, with participants questioning their assumptions about the functions and their properties.

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I'm confused about some of the notation in Hoffman & Kunze Linear Algebra.

Let V be the set of all complex valued functions f on the real line such that (for all t in R)

f(-t) = \overline{f(t)} where the bar denotes complex conjugation.

Show that V with the operations (f+g)(t) = f(t) + g(t)
(cf)(t) = cf(t) is a vector space over the field of real numbers. Give an example of a function in V which is not real valued.
Before I can even approach the question I need to clarify what is happening here.

I'm not sure why it is written as ##f(-t) = \overline{f(t)} ##

Am I correct that ## f(a) = a - 0i = a ## (since a is real).
## f(-a) ## would be ## a + 0i = a ##

Obviously I have some confusion here.

Also, with the addition properties given above, would I not have:

## (f+g)(t) = f(t) + g(t) = \overline{f(-t)} + \overline{g(-t)} ##

In particular I am confused when I try to show closure under the real numbers. since ##(a_{1} + b_{1}i) + (a_{2} + b_{2}i)## gives me (I think) something like ## a_{1} + a_{2} + (b_{1} + b_{2})i ##Unless I'm supposed to be adding something to it's OWN conjugation, in which case the imaginary part would cancel, which would be nice. Is that what I am supposed to do?

Appreciate any help

-Dave K
 
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dkotschessaa said:
I'm confused about some of the notation in Hoffman & Kunze Linear Algebra.

Let V be the set of all complex valued functions f on the real line such that (for all t in R)

f(-t) = \overline{f(t)} where the bar denotes complex conjugation.

Show that V with the operations (f+g)(t) = f(t) + g(t)
(cf)(t) = cf(t) is a vector space over the field of real numbers. Give an example of a function in V which is not real valued.



Before I can even approach the question I need to clarify what is happening here.

I'm not sure why it is written as ##f(-t) = \overline{f(t)} ##

Am I correct that ## f(a) = a - 0i = a ## (since a is real).
## f(-a) ## would be ## a + 0i = a ##
No, you are not correct. If f(x) is NOT necessarily equal to x! For any real x, f(x) is some complex number depending upon x. It might be, for example, f(x)= xi or f(x)= 3x- x^3i. More generally, f(x)= g(x)+ h(x)i where g and h are real valued functions of x.

The requirement that f(-t)= \overline{f(t)} means that g(-t)= g(t) and h(-t)= -h(t). That is, g is an "even" function and h is an "odd" function.

Obviously I have some confusion here.

Also, with the addition properties given above, would I not have:

## (f+g)(t) = f(t) + g(t) = \overline{f(-t)} + \overline{g(-t)} ##

In particular I am confused when I try to show closure under the real numbers. since ##(a_{1} + b_{1}i( + (a_{2} + b_{2}i)## gives me (I think) something like ## a_{1} + a_{2} + (b_{1} + b_{2})i ##


Unless I'm supposed to be adding something to it's OWN conjugation, in which case the imaginary part would cancel, which would be nice. Is that what I am supposed to do?

Appreciate any help

-Dave K
 
HallsofIvy said:
No, you are not correct. If f(x) is NOT necessarily equal to x! For any real x, f(x) is some complex number depending upon x. It might be, for example, f(x)= xi or f(x)= 3x- x^3i. More generally, f(x)= g(x)+ h(x)i where g and h are real valued functions of x.

I meant that if a is just some integer, for example. What is f(a)? a = a + 0i, whose conjugate is a = 0i,which is a. Perhaps my thinking is not function-oriented enough here.

The requirement that f(-t)= \overline{f(t)} means that g(-t)= g(t) and h(-t)= -h(t). That is, g is an "even" function and h is an "odd" function.

That sheds a bit more light, but I'm still confused about closure.

If I have ## f(-x)= g(x)+ h(x)i ## and ## f'(x) = g'(x)+ h'(x)i ## I still wind up with something with an imaginary part when I add them.

-Dave K
 
Am I only taking the conjugate when I have ## f(-t) ## and not when I have just ## f(t) ## as is originally defined? i.e. ## f(-t) = \overline{f(t)} ## but ## f(t) = f(t) ## (not conjugated)?
 

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