Undergrad Complex Fourier transform (represented by Σ)

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The forum discussion centers on deriving Equation (2.3a) from the Fourier coefficients defined in Equation (2.2) in the paper "Fourier_techniques.pdf." Participants express confusion regarding the transition from integral representations of Fourier coefficients to their summation forms. The discussion emphasizes the approximation of integrals to discrete summations, particularly using the definitions of \( t_k = kT/N \) and \( \omega_j = 2\pi j/T \). The consensus suggests that understanding the general concepts presented in Section 2.1 is crucial before delving into detailed derivations.

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I can't understand how to derive fourier transform(described by Σ).
Dear all.

I can't understand how to derive Eq.(2.3a).

Fourier coefficients, ##A_j## and ##B_j## are described by summation in this paper as (2.2). I think this is weird.
Because this paper said "In this section 2.1 ,the Fourier transform is introduced in very general terms".
and I understand Fourier coefficients as integral.( I think integral version is more general than ##Σ## version.) so I'm confused.

I would like to ask you how to derive (2.3a) in this paper( in ##Σ## version).
(this is the paper I readFourier_techniques.pdf)

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Assume that you are integrating from ##-T## to ##+T##, and consider the evenness or oddness of ##\cos^2\omega_jt##, ##\sin^2\omega_jt##, and ##\sin\omega_jt\cos\omega_jt##. Then take the small step from integration to discrete summation.
 
I appreciate for you, @tnich.

Can I use ##t_k=kT/N,ω_j=2πj/T##in the process to derive (2.2)??
This paper does not say anything about ##ω_j## in section 2.1.
So you say like this??Can I approximate to Σ from integral?
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Yes, I am saying that you can approximate the integrals with discrete summations. Try looking at the definition of an integral as a limit of discrete summations to see how to do the approximation.
I am having trouble reading your derivation, so I don't know if you got it right. I see that you kept ##k## and ##t_k## in the integral. I think you need to integrate over ##t## from ##-T## to ##+T##.
But, that said, on page 2 the author says that this section is a general overview and that he will go into the details later. If you understand the general idea, I would be tempted to just read on.
 
Ok, I think I got it😊
Thanks for your kindness,@tnich!
 
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