Complex ion oxidation state (with pic)

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The oxidation state of cobalt in the discussed complex is +6 for the central cobalt atom, surrounded by six oxygen atoms, while the other cobalt atoms exhibit an oxidation state of +2 due to their coordination with two oxygen atoms and NH3 ligands. The discussion emphasizes that oxidation states are merely accounting tools and do not reflect measurable properties of atoms. Assigning oxidation states in large complexes is often impractical, as these atoms are interconnected within molecular orbitals, complicating the concept of charge distribution. The conversation also highlights the importance of considering charge balance in complex ions, as seen in the example of Fe3O4.

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What are the oxidation states of the cobalt ions?
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oxidation state of central cobalt is +6 due to 6 oxygen surrounding it,The other cobalt is +2 due to 2 oxygen surrounding it with NH3 ligand which is no count for oxidation state.
 
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First of all, please remember oxidation state doesn't exist - it is merely an accounting device helping in electron bookkeeping, in most cases there is no measurable property of an atom that can be measured and called "oxidation state".

Then, assigning oxidation states to atoms in large complexes doesn't make much sense. They don't exist in separation but are all part of molecule and are bonded with molecular orbitals. Using arbitrary rules to assign some number to an atom doesn't produce any real insight into what is really happening. We can measure charge density with some spectroscopic methods, but it will show electron cloud that can't be easily split into "charges on atoms".
 
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On the other hand...

Let us evaluate your answer. You say that the central Co is +6 and each of the three “ligand” Co complexes contains a Co+2. This gives a total charge of 6+2+2+2=+12. This total charge is balanced by only 6 Cl-1?
 
I agree with Borek as a theoretical chemist, but from practical chemistry side, there are many examples where oxidation state is useful beyond electron counting. E.g. there are compounds like Fe3O4 where the iron ions are in differently coordinated sites and also differ in their spectroscopic behaviour so that the compound is better regarded as an Fe(II) Fe(III)2 O4 than a Fe(2.66)3O4.
 
Borek said:
@chemisttree I feel like you may have missed 6 OH-?
You’re right, I did miss the the 6 OH-1. 😐
 
Borek said:
First of all, please remember oxidation state doesn't exist - it is merely an accounting device helping in electron bookkeeping, in most cases there is no measurable property of an atom that can be measured and called "oxidation state".

Then, assigning oxidation states to atoms in large complexes doesn't make much sense. They don't exist in separation but are all part of molecule and are bonded with molecular orbitals. Using arbitrary rules to assign some number to an atom doesn't produce any real insight into what is really happening. We can measure charge density with some spectroscopic methods, but it will show electron cloud that can't be easily split into "charges on atoms".
According to textbook, what you said is true but I still have to tackle the exam...please educate me why its oxidation number is 3 for all cobalts
 
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You would have to know that Co+6 is not a known oxidation state of cobalt. That unknown ion (maybe you will find it in the sun’s coronasphere) would be isoelectronic with scandium. [Ar]4s23d1 would be pretty unusual for Co, right? And try to add six pairs of electrons to that and see if it looks right to you?
 

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