MHB Complex number as a root and inequality question

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The discussion revolves around solving a polynomial equation where the complex number i is confirmed as a root of the equation x^4 - 5x^3 + 7x^2 - 5x + 6 = 0. Participants suggest that since i is a root, (x^2 + 1) must be a factor, leading to the factorization (x^2 + 1)(x - 2)(x - 3) = 0, revealing real roots at 2 and 3. For the second question regarding the function f(x) = (4-x^2)/(4-x^(1/2)), the largest domain is determined to be [0,16) U (16, infinity), and the inequality f(x) ≥ 1 is solved, leading to the conclusion that x must be less than or equal to 1. The discussion highlights various methods for factoring polynomials and solving inequalities.
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Question 1:
(a) Show that the complex number i is a root of the equation
x^4 - 5x^3 + 7x^2 - 5x + 6 = 0
(b) Find the other roots of this equation

Work:
Well, I thought about factoring the equation into (x^2 + ...) (x^2+...) but I couldn't do it. Is there a method for that? Anyways the reason I wanted to do that was to use the quadratic formula afterwards where I guess one of the zeroes is x=i.Edit: Think I solved my own question 2 upon writing this
Question 2:
Let f(x) = (4-x^2)/(4-x^(1/2))

(a) State the largest possible domain for f.

(b )Solve the inequality f(x) greater than or equal to 1

Work:
Domain: [0,16) U (16,infinity)
x^(1/2) so x can't be negative (greater than or equal to 0) and it's a fraction so the denominator cannot equal to 0.

Multiplied denominator to the other side
4-x^2 >= 4-x^(1/2)
Eventually arrived to
x^2-x^(1/2) <=0 and 0<=x^2+x^(1/2)
Took the first equation and changed the first term
(x^(1/2))^4-x^(1/2)<=0
x<=1
 
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Darken said:
Question 1:
(a) Show that the complex number i is a root of the equation
x^4 - 5x^3 + 7x^2 - 5x + 6 = 0

I think we can cheat a bit here and use the question itself to help us! If $$i$$ is a root of the equation, then there must be a factor of $$(x^2 + 1)$$. Does this make sense? In other words, we want to factor the expression, and thus determine the roots of the equation. One of which, will be i.

I get, $$(x^2 + 1)(x - 2)(x - 3) = 0$$ which has real roots at 2, and 3, and non-real roots at $$\pm i$$ (the advantage of this one is that we solve b) also).

Alternatively, and as you have said, we can simply let $$x = i$$, and see if whether we come across any strange results.

$$i^4 - 5i^3 + 7i^2 - 5i + 6 = 0$$

$$i^2i^2 - 5i^2i + 7i^2 -5i + 6 = 0$$

$$1 +5i - 7 - 5i + 6 = 0$$

$$0 = 0$$ and hence, $$i$$ is indeed a root of the equation.There are a few different methods for solving these, which ones have you learned for dealing with these polynomials?
 
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Joppy said:
I think we can cheat a bit here and use the question itself to help us! If $$i$$ is a root of the equation, then there must be a factor of $$(x^2 + 1)$$. Does this make sense? In other words, we want to factor the expression, and thus determine the roots of the equation. One of which, will be i.

I get, $$(x^2 + 1)(x - 2)(x - 3) = 0$$ which has real roots at 2, and 3, and non-real roots at $$\pm i$$.

There are a few different methods for solving these, which ones have you learned for dealing with these polynomials?

For x^4+... I just try to convert it to (x^2+...)(x^2+...) format by guessing tbh. I know how to factor cubes, the quadratic formula, and how to divide one polynomial by another.
 
Darken said:
For x^4+... I just try to convert it to (x^2+...)(x^2+...) format by guessing tbh. I know how to factor cubes, the quadratic formula, and how to divide one polynomial by another.

That's a good start, and yes, a bit of educated guesswork can come in handy at times.

I'll run through how i did it, and then perhaps someone else can provide a more formal or general method for solving. A few main things i used to help me solve were,

1. $$(x^2 + 1)$$ must be a factor (given in the question)
2. The product of all the factored constants must equal 6.

Because of 1., i assumed that there must be at least two other factors of the form $$(x+b)(x+a)$$. I did so, because we know there can't be any more x terms right? Otherwise we would have an $$x$$ to the power of a number greater than 4, which isn't in our original expression. So we have,

$$(x^2 + 1)(x+a)(x+b) = 0$$

At this point i got lazy and just 'trialed and errored' a bit, taking a and b as factors of 6 (2.). and knowing that the sum of $$a$$ and $$b$$ must equal $$-5$$. i.e., $$a + b = -5$$ and $$ab = 6$$, $$-2$$ and $$-3$$ are the obvious candidates here :p.

This approach is pretty adhoc, and i wouldn't recommend it (i'll probably get in trouble for it :p) while you're still learning. Sparkfun offers some not bad advice on factoring polynomials of degree 3 and 4.
 
Joppy said:
That's a good start, and yes, a bit of educated guesswork can come in handy at times.

I'll run through how i did it, and then perhaps someone else can provide a more formal or general method for solving. A few main things i used to help me solve were,

1. $$(x^2 + 1)$$ must be a factor (given in the question)
2. The product of all the factored constants must equal 6.

Because of 1., i assumed that there must be at least two other factors of the form $$(x+b)(x+a)$$. I did so, because we know there can't be any more x terms right? Otherwise we would have an $$x$$ to the power of a number greater than 4, which isn't in our original expression. So we have,

$$(x^2 + 1)(x+a)(x+b) = 0$$

At this point i got lazy and just 'trialed and errored' a bit, taking a and b as factors of 6 (2.). and knowing that the sum of $$a$$ and $$b$$ must equal $$-5$$. i.e., $$a + b = -5$$ and $$ab = 6$$, $$-2$$ and $$-3$$ are the obvious candidates here :p.

This approach is pretty adhoc, and i wouldn't recommend it (i'll probably get in trouble for it :p) while you're still learning. Sparkfun offers some not bad advice on factoring polynomials of degree 3 and 4.

I can't see the url outside of me replying. Anyways what about dividing the original equation by (x^2 + 1) and then attempting to factor whatever it is?
 
Darken said:
I can't see the url outside of me replying.

Not sure about that. Maybe i didn't embed them correctly.

Darken said:
Anyways what about dividing the original equation by (x^2 + 1) and then attempting to factor whatever it is?

Yes long division is a pretty common method. It's quite robust too.
 
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