Complex Number Loci: Proof and Circle Variation with z = 1/(3+it)

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The discussion revolves around the complex number \( z = \frac{1}{3+it} \) and its representation on an Argand diagram. Participants are tasked with proving a relationship involving \( z \) and its conjugate, and showing that as \( t \) varies, the point \( T \) lies on a circle, including identifying the center of that circle.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants demonstrate that \( z + z^* = 6zz^* \) and provide calculations to support this claim.
  • Others express confusion regarding the second part of the problem, specifically how to show that \( T \) lies on a circle as \( t \) varies.
  • A participant presents a method involving the transformation of \( z \) into its real and imaginary components, leading to a relationship that suggests a circular locus.
  • Another participant discusses completing the square to derive the equation of the circle, indicating a center at \( \frac{1}{6} \) and a radius of \( \frac{1}{6} \).
  • There are requests for clarification on specific steps, particularly regarding the derivation of certain values and the interpretation of results.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the initial steps involving the relationship \( z + z^* = 6zz^* \). However, there is no consensus on the interpretation of the second part of the problem, as multiple approaches and methods are proposed, leading to varying degrees of understanding and clarity.

Contextual Notes

Some participants' calculations and transformations depend on specific assumptions about the values of \( t \) and the definitions of \( z \) and \( z^* \). There are unresolved steps in the derivations, particularly regarding the transition from algebraic expressions to geometric interpretations.

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Given that z = 1/(3+it), it is denoted by T on a argand diagram
1. show that z + z* = 6zz*
Got this part out but the next part i am totally confused

I did abit of loci but i can't figure out this one

2. Show that if t varies T lies on a circle , and state the coordinates of the centre of the circle.

Please help i am clueless
 
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righteous818 said:
Given that z = 1/(3+it), it is denoted by T on a argand diagram
1. show that z + z* = 6zz*
Got this part out but the next part i am totally confused

I did abit of loci but i can't figure out this one

2. Show that if t varies T lies on a circle , and state the coordinates of the centre of the circle.

Please help i am clueless

1. $\displaystyle z+ z^{*}= \frac{1}{3+i\ t}+ \frac{1}{3-i\ t}= \frac{6}{9+t^{2}}= z\ z^{*}$
Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
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i don't understand part 2 can u explain what u did abit more
 
righteous818 said:
Given that z = 1/(3+it), it is denoted by T on a argand diagram
1. show that z + z* = 6zz*
Got this part out but the next part i am totally confused

I did abit of loci but i can't figure out this one

2. Show that if t varies T lies on a circle , and state the coordinates of the centre of the circle.

Please help i am clueless

Part 2.

\[z=\frac{1}{3+it}=\frac{3-it}{9+t^2}\]

So putting \(z=x+iy\) we have:

\[x=\frac{3}{9+t^2}\]\[y=-\frac{t}{9+t^2}\]

squaring and adding gives:

\[x^2+y^2=\frac{9}{(9+t^2)^2}+\frac{t^2}{(9+t^2)^2}=\frac{1}{9+t^2}=\frac{x}{3}\]

so:

\[\left(x^2-\frac{x}{3}+\frac{1}{6^2}\right)+y^2=\frac{1}{6^2}\]

or:

\[ \left( x-\frac{1}{6} \right)^2+y^2=\frac{1}{6^2}\]

CB
 
chisigma said:
1. $\displaystyle z+ z^{*}= \frac{1}{3+i\ t}+ \frac{1}{3-i\ t}= \frac{6}{9+t^{2}}= {\color{red}6}z\ z^{*}$
Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$

See correction in red.

CB
 
righteous818 said:
Given that z = 1/(3+it), it is denoted by T on a argand diagram
1. show that z + z* = 6zz*
Got this part out but the next part i am totally confused

I did abit of loci but i can't figure out this one

2. Show that if t varies T lies on a circle , and state the coordinates of the centre of the circle.

Please help i am clueless

Part 2, method 2.

Given \(z + z^* = 6zz^*\), and letting \(z=x+iy\) we have: \(2x=6(x^2+y^2)\) ..

CB
 
how and where did you get 1/36
 
righteous818 said:
how and where did you get 1/36

By completing the square:

\[x^2-\frac{x}{3}= \left(x^2-\frac{x}{3}+\frac{1}{6^2}\right)-\frac{1}{6^2}=\left(x-\frac{1}{6}\right)^2-\frac{1}{6^2}\]

And please quote the post that your post is referring to.

CB
 
righteous818 said:
Given that z = 1/(3+it), it is denoted by T on a argand diagram
1. show that z + z* = 6zz*
Got this part out but the next part i am totally confused

I did abit of loci but i can't figure out this one

2. Show that if t varies T lies on a circle , and state the coordinates of the centre of the circle.
For part 2, I would use part 1:

If $z + z^* = 6zz^*$ then $zz^* -\frac16z - \frac16z^* = 0.$ Therefore $\bigl(z-\frac16\bigr)\bigl(z^*-\frac16\bigr) = \frac1{36}.$ Thus $\bigl|z-\frac16\bigr|^2 = \frac1{36}.$ Take the square root to get $\bigl|z-\frac16\bigr| = \frac16$, which is the equation of a circle centred at 1/6 with radius 1/6.
 

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