Complex numbers, solving polynomial, signs of i

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The discussion revolves around solving a polynomial equation involving complex numbers, specifically verifying roots and finding remaining roots. Participants explore the implications of complex roots and their properties, as well as the process of polynomial factorization.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant verifies that i and -2 are roots of the polynomial z^3 + 2z^2 + z + 2 = 0 through substitution.
  • Another participant suggests that the initial factorization should use (z - root) format, correcting the first participant's approach to factoring.
  • A later reply emphasizes that if i and -2 are roots, then (z - i)(z + 2) should be used as factors, and suggests dividing the original polynomial by this product to find the third factor.
  • One participant notes that complex roots of polynomials with real coefficients appear in conjugate pairs, mentioning that the conjugate of i is -i.
  • There is a question about the multiplication of i and -i, with a participant clarifying that i * -i equals 1, and also explains that (-i)^2 equals -1.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the properties of complex roots and the need for correct factorization. However, there is some disagreement regarding the initial approach to finding the remaining roots and the implications of the calculations presented.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the correct factorization method and the implications of the calculations for finding the remaining root. The discussion reflects uncertainty in the application of polynomial root properties and factorization techniques.

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I'm revising complex numbers and having trouble with this question...

Question:

Verify that 2 of the roots of the equation:

z^3 +2z^2 + z + 2 = 0

are i and -2. Find any remaining roots

Attempt at solution:

i^3 +2 i^2 + i + 2 =
(-1)i + 2(-1) +i + 2 =
-i -2 + i +2 =0
therefore i is a root

(-2)^3 +2(-2)^2 + (-2) + 2 =
-8 + 8 = 0
therefore -2 is a root


Let y be the remaining root to be found...

(z+i) (z-2)(z+y) = 0
(z^2 - 2z + iz -2i) (z+y) = 0
z^3 - 2z^2 + iz^2 -2iz +z^2 y -2zy +izy -2iy = 0

z^3 + (i+y-2) z^2 + (iy-2y-2i)z + (-2iy) = 0

so from this I should be able to work out y by equating the coefficients...
i + y-2 = 2 -> i+y = 4??
iy-2-2i = 1 iy - 2i = 3?
-2iy = 2 from this i think y=i but it doesn't seem to agree with the other equations.

This is where I'm stuck.
Does i multiplied by -i equal 1 or -1?
Also what is is (-i)^2 ?

Thanks
 
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I think the mistake is at the very beginning...
(z+i) (z-2)(z+y) = 0

The idea of factoring is that if you plug in a root, one of the factors will be zero. Therefore, you should always write (z - root). If +i and -2 are roots, then, you would get
(z-i)(z+2)(z-y) = 0

Does i multiplied by -i equal 1 or -1?
i * -i = -1 * i *i = -1 * -1 = 1

Also what is is (-i)^2 ?
(-i)^2 = i^2 = -1
just like
(-2)^2 = 2^2 = 4
 
Following up on what Compuchip said, if i and -2 are roots, z - i and z + 2 are factors, which means also that (z - i)(z + 2) is a factor. If you multiply this out and divide your original polynomial by it, you will get your third factor.
 
One thing that you should always be aware of is that if all the coefficients of a polynomial are real, then the complex roots will come in conjugate pairs. The conjugate of i is -i.
 

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