Compression of spring wrt speed

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The problem involves a block sliding on a frictionless surface that compresses a spring upon collision. The original poster is tasked with determining the compression of the spring when the block collides at a higher speed, specifically at 4.00 times the initial speed.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to equate kinetic and potential energy but struggles with the unknown variables. They initially consider multiplying the compression by 4 due to the increased speed, which they later question. Other participants suggest setting up a ratio and equating energies to explore the relationship further.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering different methods to approach the energy equations. There is some confusion regarding the algebraic manipulation of the equations, but guidance has been provided on how to set up the ratios correctly.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of multiple unknowns complicating the original poster's attempts to solve the problem, and participants are clarifying the relationships between the variables involved.

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Homework Statement



A block sliding along a horizontal frictionless surface with speed v collides with a spring and compresses it by 2.34 cm. What will be the compression if the same block collides with the spring at a speed of 4.00v?

Homework Equations



e=0.5mvSUP]2[/SUP] e= 0.5k*x2

The Attempt at a Solution


i thought abt equating the two and solving it in regards but there are too many unknown values to cancel them out...and also to find a way to make a connection btw the given information.
my next thought was to times the given compression by 4 since the speed is also increased but that proved to be wrong..pls. help
 
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brunettegurl said:
my next thought was to times the given compression by 4 since the speed is also increased but that proved to be wrong
That should be correct. [edit: At first I said it was wrong, but I didn't read it carefully.]

Set up a ratio to verify it.
 
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Equate both energies, potential and kinetic for both systems independently. Then divide the equations against each other and see what pops out.
 
ok ...so I'm a little confused abt the divide them against part..so if i do that the k and m would cancel off living (v2+16v2)= (0.0234)2(x2)...does that look right or am i totally off track??
 
brunettegurl said:
ok ...so I'm a little confused abt the divide them against part..so if i do that the k and m would cancel off living (v2+16v2)= (0.0234)2(x2)...does that look right or am i totally off track??
I don't quite understand what you did. Yes, the m and k drop out, but you should have v12/v22 = x12/x22 (or equivalent).

(Read my correction to my last post.)
 
ok thanks :))
 

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