Speed of object after collision related to spring

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves two objects colliding with a spring, focusing on the speed of one object after the collision at maximum spring compression. The subject area includes concepts of momentum and energy conservation in a mechanics context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using conservation of energy and momentum to analyze the collision. Questions arise about the conditions for momentum conservation and the relationship between the spring's properties and the variables involved.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights into applying conservation laws, with one suggesting that at maximum compression, both objects will move together at the same speed. However, there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the calculations presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the implications of treating the system as closed and considering the effects of the spring's compression on the overall motion. There is mention of uncertainty regarding the spring constant and its relation to the problem's variables.

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Homework Statement


As shown in the figure below, object A (mass: m) is at rest on a smooth, horizontal surface, and a lightweight spring that compress / stretches in the horizontal direction is attached to it. Object B, which has the same mass m, approaches A from the left side with speed v and collides with the spring. The spring compresses and A begins to move. A, B, and the spring travel in a straight line. What is the speed of A when the spring is at maximum compression?
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Homework Equations


conservation of energy
momentum?

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried using conservation of energy:

Kinetic energy of B before hitting the spring = elastic potential energy of spring at maximum compression + kinetic energy of A

But then I stuck because I don't know how to change the spring constant and maximum compression to other variables
 
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songoku said:
But then I stuck
so consider
songoku said:
momentum?
Do the conditions for momentum conservation exist here?
 
haruspex said:
Do the conditions for momentum conservation exist here?

Yes, taking both boxes and spring as a closed system.

At maximum compression, object A and B will move with same speed?

Using conservation of momentum:
mAuA + mBuB = (mA+mB) V
V = 1/2 v

Is this correct?
 
songoku said:
Yes, taking both boxes and spring as a closed system.

At maximum compression, object A and B will move with same speed?

Using conservation of momentum:
mAuA + mBuB = (mA+mB) V
V = 1/2 v

Is this correct?
That's it.
 
Thanks a lot for the help
 

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