Compton Scattering and Recoil Velocity

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The discussion centers on calculating the recoil velocity of an electron after being struck by a photon of wavelength 200 pm, using Compton scattering principles. The relevant equations include the Compton wavelength shift formula and momentum conservation equations. The calculated recoil velocity was found to be approximately 3.97 km/s, which is significantly lower than the multiple-choice answers provided, all exceeding 1000 km/s. A critical error identified was a missing factor of 2 in the wavelength shift equation, which affected the final velocity calculation.

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Homework Statement


A photon of wavelength ##\lambda_i = 200## pm hits an electron at rest, and is scattered exactly backwards. Find the approximate recoil velocity v of the electron using momentum conservation.

Homework Equations


Comptons Scattering:
$$\lambda_f = \lambda_i +\frac{h}{mc}(1-cos(\theta)$$

Momentum of photon:
$$p_\gamma = \frac{h}{\lambda}$$

Momentum conservation:
$$p_1+p_2 = p_1'+p_2'$$

The Attempt at a Solution


Since it recoils exactly backwards, ##\theta = \pi##, so ##(1-cos(\theta) = 1-cos(\pi) = 2##.
So,
$$\lambda_f = \lambda_i +\frac{2\pi \hbar c}{mc^2}$$
Using ##\hbar c = 197.33## MeV fm, and ##mc^2 = E_e = 937## MeV,
$$\lambda_f = 200 pm + \frac{2*2\pi (197.33 MeV fm \frac{10^{-3} pm}{fm})}{937 MeV} = 200.001$$
So for the momentum,
$$p_\gamma = \frac{h}{\lambda_i} = \frac{2\pi\hbar}{\lambda_i}$$
and
$$p_\gamma' = -\frac{h}{\lambda_f} = -\frac{2\pi\hbar}{\lambda_f}$$
and for the electron, ##p_e = 0## and ##p_e' = mv = \frac{mc^2}{c^2}v = \frac{E_e}{c^2}v##
Using conservation of momentum,
$$p_\gamma + p_e = p_\gamma' + p_e' \Rightarrow p_e' = p_\gamma - p_\gamma' \Rightarrow \frac{E_e}{c^2}v = \frac{2\pi\hbar}{\lambda_i} - (-\frac{2\pi\hbar}{\lambda_f}) = 2\pi\hbar(\frac{1}{\lambda_i}+\frac{1}{\lambda_f})$$
$$\Rightarrow v = \frac{2\pi\hbar c*c}{E_e}(\frac{1}{\lambda_i}+\frac{1}{\lambda_f})$$
Converting ##\hbar c## from MeV fm to MeV pm and plugging in all variables gave me ##v = 3969.65 \frac{m}{s}##.
The multiple choice answers were in km/s, and all had over 1000 km/s. My answer would give me about 3.97 km/s.

I have gone through trying to figure out what I did wrong. I though that I might need to use relativistic velocity; however, I found it negligible even with the largest answer choice.
 
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doggydan42 said:

Homework Statement


A photon of wavelength ##\lambda_i = 200## pm hits an electron at rest, and is scattered exactly backwards. Find the approximate recoil velocity v of the electron using momentum conservation.

Homework Equations


Comptons Scattering:
$$\lambda_f = \lambda_i +\frac{h}{mc}(1-cos(\theta)$$

Momentum of photon:
$$p_\gamma = \frac{h}{\lambda}$$

Momentum conservation:
$$p_1+p_2 = p_1'+p_2'$$

The Attempt at a Solution


Since it recoils exactly backwards, ##\theta = \pi##, so ##(1-cos(\theta) = 1-cos(\pi) = 2##.
So,
$$\lambda_f = \lambda_i +\frac{2\pi \hbar c}{mc^2}$$
Using ##\hbar c = 197.33## MeV fm, and ##mc^2 = E_e = 937## MeV.
The mistake is right there.
 
nrqed said:
The mistake is right there.
Are you referring to the missing factor of 2 in the equation for ##\lambda_f##? If so, when. I plugged in the values in the next equation, I added the factor. The first equation missed the factor because of a typo.
 
doggydan42 said:
Are you referring to the missing factor of 2 in the equation for ##\lambda_f##? If so, when. I plugged in the values in the next equation, I added the factor. The first equation missed the factor because of a typo.
I was referring to the very last thing written in the part I quoted.
 

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