Compute flux through rectangular area

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The problem involves calculating the magnetic flux through a rectangular area in the presence of a current-carrying wire. The wire is parallel to one side of the rectangle and located at a distance from it. The discussion centers around the appropriate setup for the integral needed to compute this flux.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of cylindrical coordinates versus rectangular coordinates for setting up the integral. There are attempts to clarify the limits of integration and the form of the magnetic field equation. Some participants express uncertainty about the correct setup and the presence of natural logarithms in the solution.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the integral setup, with some participants confirming the correctness of proposed setups while others question their own reasoning. A few participants have offered guidance on the integral form, but no consensus has been reached on the final approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential confusion regarding notation, specifically concerning subscripts and exponents. There is also mention of homework constraints that may affect the approach taken.

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Homework Statement



There is an aXb rectangular area in the same plane as a wire with current I. The wire is parallel to side b, and a distance d away. Compute the flux through the rectangular area.

Homework Equations



[tex]\Phi[/tex]=[tex]\int[/tex]B*dA

B=([tex]\mu[/tex]I)/(2[tex]\pi[/tex]r)

cylindrical coordinates... rdrd[tex]\theta[/tex]dz

The Attempt at a Solution


([tex]\mu[/tex]I)/(2[tex]\pi)[/tex][tex]\int[/tex][tex]\int[/tex][tex]\int[/tex](1/r)(rdrd[tex]\theta[/tex]dz)

dr is from d to d+a
d[tex]\theta[/tex] is from 0 to 2[tex]\pi[/tex]
dz is from 0 to b

The solution to this ends up having natural logs in it, and to do that I would have to drop r, but I don't feel like that is right. Could someone please help point me in the right direction on setting up this integral.

Thank you.
 
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I am not sure why some things look like subscripts or exponents so just a warning there are no exponents are subscripts lol
 


I think I see why now. I should be using rectangular coordinates huh?
I don't know what I was thinking... I must have been thinking partially of amperes law
 


([tex]\mu[/tex]I)/(2[tex]\pi)[/tex][tex]\int[/tex][tex]\int[/tex](1/r) dr dy

dr from d to d+a
dy from 0 to b

would this be the correct set up?
 


Yes, that's the correct setup. Your solution should have a natural log in it.
 


EV33 said:
([tex]\mu[/tex]I)/(2[tex]\pi)[/tex][tex]\int[/tex][tex]\int[/tex](1/r) dr dy

dr from d to d+a
dy from 0 to b

would this be the correct set up?

[tex]\frac{ \mu I }{2\pi} \int_0^b \int_d^{d+a} \frac{1}{r} dr dy[/tex]

Code:
\frac{ \mu I }{2\pi} \int_0^b \int_d^{d+a} \frac{1}{r} dr dy

Hope that helps, though it's nothing to do with the actual question.
 

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