Computer Aided Mechanical Engineering

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The discussion revolves around the perceptions and implications of pursuing a degree in Computer-Aided Mechanical Engineering (CAME) as opposed to a traditional Mechanical Engineering (ME) degree. Participants explore concerns regarding the degree's focus on design versus engineering, its recognition by employers, and the potential for further education in mechanical engineering.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern that the CAME degree may be viewed as primarily a design degree, which could affect its recognition as a legitimate engineering qualification by some employers.
  • Another participant notes that the legal definition of an engineer often includes qualifications related to design, raising questions about the degree's classification.
  • Some participants suggest that the degree might be categorized as an "engineering technology" degree rather than a full engineering degree, which could impact job prospects.
  • There is a discussion about the specific course content over five years, highlighting a mix of engineering fundamentals, design, and computer-aided engineering topics.
  • A participant questions the degree's title and whether it would be beneficial to pursue a master's degree in traditional mechanical engineering afterward.
  • Concerns are raised about the ease of transitioning to a master's program in mechanical engineering with a background in CAME.
  • One participant suggests considering work experience before reapplying to a different program, indicating uncertainty about the current educational path.
  • Another participant mentions that the course is accredited by the institution of mechanical engineers, which may provide some reassurance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of concerns and opinions regarding the CAME degree, with no clear consensus on its value or recognition in the engineering field. Some participants agree on the potential issues related to the degree's classification, while others focus on the specific course content and its implications for future employment.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight uncertainties regarding the degree's classification, its acceptance by employers, and the potential for further education. There are also references to the importance of course accreditation and the relevance of foundational courses in mathematics and physics.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals considering a degree in Computer-Aided Mechanical Engineering, those interested in the distinctions between engineering and engineering technology degrees, and students evaluating their educational paths in engineering may find this discussion relevant.

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I am 17 years old and aspiring to be an engineer. When I go to university next year the course I will be studying is Computer-Aided Mechanical Engineering. I wanted to study just Mechanical Engineering however I did not get into the university that does it and this is the only course that I want to do within the university I got into.
I was wondering what people thought of Computer-Aided Mechanical Engineering and what employers thought of it. I am worried that it is a bit too much on the design side of things to be classed as an engineering degree for some employers. What do you guys thing?
Thank you
 
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09matthew said:
I am 17 years old and aspiring to be an engineer. When I go to university next year the course I will be studying is Computer-Aided Mechanical Engineering. I wanted to study just Mechanical Engineering however I did not get into the university that does it and this is the only course that I want to do within the university I got into.
I was wondering what people thought of Computer-Aided Mechanical Engineering and what employers thought of it. I am worried that it is a bit too much on the design side of things to be classed as an engineering degree for some employers. What do you guys thing?
Thank you
Usually you get a BS degree in engineering or engineering tech and CADD courses are part of the program or supplemental in grad school. What sort of a degree will you be getting and what other courses will you be taking at this school ?
 
Hey, sorry for the late reply! This is the course contents:
Year 1: Provides a broad-based and solid coverage of the fundamentals of engineering

Year 2: Thermodynamics & Fluid Mechanics, Engineering Design & Analysis, Mathematics, Professional Orientation & Practice, Control & Instrumentation Systems, Manufacture & Materials, Electrical Systems

Year 3: Computer Aided Engineering, Energy Conversion Technologies, Manufacture & Materials, Engineering Design & Analysis, Integrated Studies, Engineering Management & Quality

Year 4: Project, Finite Element Analysis, Engineering Design & Analysis, Simulation for Manufacturing, Renewable Energy Equipment Design, Computer Aided Design

Year 5: MEng Team Project, Strategy & Innovation, Applied Thermofluids * CFD, Manufacturing Management, Advanced Computer-Aided Engineering.

I am a little worried because I have heard that some employers see this degree as more of a design degree rather than engineering and I was wondering what you all thought of it. Thanks
 
09matthew said:
Hey, sorry for the late reply! This is the course contents:
Year 1: Provides a broad-based and solid coverage of the fundamentals of engineering

Year 2: Thermodynamics & Fluid Mechanics, Engineering Design & Analysis, Mathematics, Professional Orientation & Practice, Control & Instrumentation Systems, Manufacture & Materials, Electrical Systems

Year 3: Computer Aided Engineering, Energy Conversion Technologies, Manufacture & Materials, Engineering Design & Analysis, Integrated Studies, Engineering Management & Quality

Year 4: Project, Finite Element Analysis, Engineering Design & Analysis, Simulation for Manufacturing, Renewable Energy Equipment Design, Computer Aided Design

Year 5: MEng Team Project, Strategy & Innovation, Applied Thermofluids * CFD, Manufacturing Management, Advanced Computer-Aided Engineering.

I am a little worried because I have heard that some employers see this degree as more of a design degree rather than engineering and I was wondering what you all thought of it. Thanks
So I am not familiar with this degree, but after 5 years what is the actual degree is it bachelor or master of science in computer aided mechanical engineering or what?
 
09matthew said:
I am a little worried because I have heard that some employers see this degree as more of a design degree rather than engineering

The legal definition of an engineer in many jurisdictions is "a person qualified to design." Sounds like you are worried that the degree may be just what you say you want while perhaps what you really want is something else altogether.
 
Dr.D said:
The legal definition of an engineer in many jurisdictions is "a person qualified to design."
In my field (building systems engineering), a "designer" is someone who does technical work in an engineering company, but is not an engineer.

I've never heard of this degree, but if you want to be an engineer, my concern is that it may be an "engineering technology" degree and not an "engineering" degree. The distinction may matter. I'd search for jobs with it on Monster.com, check to see if it is abet accredited, check PE requirements (if applicable for your particular field), etc.
 
russ_watters said:
In my field (building systems engineering), a "designer" is someone who does technical work in an engineering company, but is not an engineer.

I've never heard of this degree, but if you want to be an engineer, my concern is that it may be an "engineering technology" degree and not an "engineering" degree. The distinction may matter. I'd search for jobs with it on Monster.com, check to see if it is abet accredited, check PE requirements (if applicable for your particular field), etc.
That is my concern also. There is certainly a need for eng tech graduates, but in spite of claims to the contrary, a degree in Engineering technology is not the same as a degree in engineering, and I would hire an engineering degree graduate to do engineering work, and the engineering tech or CADD graduate I would hire to do more design and drafting work than engineering work, at least in the short term
 
The degree title is BEng/BEng (Hons) Computer aided Mechanical engineering. I have only applied for the 4 year course, so do you think it would be more beneficial to get my masters at a different institute for MEng Degree in Mechanical Engineering?
 
09matthew said:
The degree title is BEng/BEng (Hons) Computer aided Mechanical engineering. I have only applied for the 4 year course, so do you think it would be more beneficial to get my masters at a different institute for MEng Degree in Mechanical Engineering?
I really don't know if it would be that easy to get a Masters in ME at a different institute if you have only the BEng in Computer aided ME instead of the Bachelors in straight ME. Are you taking a bunch of different level courses over the next 4 years in Calculus and Physics?
 
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I'm not sure yet as I start the course in September. Should I do a year of work experience then try to apply again to different courses next year? The only reason I am doing this couse is because I didn't get into the University I wanted too for straight ME and this was the next closest thing I got into for ME. I spoke to my physics teacher about it (he was a ME then went into teaching) and he said he had never heard of it either but thought that the course sounded good. I'm just really stressed out right now by this :/

The course is accredited by the institution of mechanical engineers.
 
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09matthew said:
I'm not sure yet as I start the course in September. Should I do a year of work experience then try to apply again to different courses next year? The only reason I am doing this couse is because I didn't get into the University I wanted too for straight ME and this was the next closest thing I got into for ME. I spoke to my physics teacher about it (he was a ME then went into teaching) and he said he had never heard of it either but thought that the course sounded good. I'm just really stressed out right now by this :/

The course is accredited by the institution of mechanical engineers.
I am not sure of your circumstances as to why you did not get into a school that offers the full ME degree...perhaps because of financial reasons or only fair high school grades in math/physics? Does your first semester offer calculus and Intro physics courses (find out)? Did you enjoy math and physics in high school? How about applying next year or even in 2 years to a school that offers the full ME degree?
I'll be honest, I prefer the full BS or MS degree in candidates I interview for engineering employment. In general, they are better prepared to handle the day to day engineering challenges, because the intensity of the course studies prepares them better . Like heck I mean even if you never use calculus in your engineering job (I seldom do), you still need a strong calculus background to be good in engineering (hard to explain that, but it is true...it disciplines you to think, and understand the engineering equations, etc.). Now others may disagree and say that a less than full engineering degree (like an engineering technology or your computer aided degree) makes no difference. But since a lot of interviewers are old timers, they are looking for full blown degrees.
Also, besides the technical stuff, one of the most important requirements in engineering is to have good verbal and written communication skills. If you can't effectively convey your thoughts and ideas, you are at a big disadvantage. Calculations and drawings are not all that is required in the profession.
 
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Yeah the reason I didn't get into the better university was because my grades were not good enough (but I am working hard to improve my results!). I really do enjoy maths and physics and I am passionate about becoming a ME. I did research and it said the BEng is pretty much the same to a BS. The course does do calculus as it is a full engineering degree which is accredited. Perhaps things in the US are different than the UK (where I am from).
 
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09matthew said:
Yeah the reason I didn't get into the better university was because my grades were not good enough (but I am working hard to improve my results!). I really do enjoy maths and physics and I am passionate about becoming a ME. I did research and it said the BEng is pretty much the same to a BS. The course does do calculus as it is a full engineering degree which is accredited. Perhaps things in the US are different than the UK (where I am from).
Oh sorry I am not familiar with the Beng degree here in the US. So let me ask this: if you were accepted to the 'better ' university with the ME degree, what degree would you get upon graduation from that other school? Be specific.thanks
 

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