Computer build for Physics and Math

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around building a computer system tailored for physics and mathematics tasks, focusing on performance specifications suitable for handling large data sets and specialized software. Participants share insights on components, configurations, and operating systems, while addressing the needs of a student transitioning from a laptop to a more powerful setup.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests a reasonable-speed processor with a minimum of 8GB RAM, recommending 16GB for future-proofing and a large hard drive for dual-booting Windows and Linux.
  • Another participant questions whether the student will be using specialized software with large data sets, indicating that this is a key consideration for the build.
  • Some participants mention the potential benefits of GPU compatibility for software like MATLAB, discussing the differences in processing capabilities between CPUs and GPUs.
  • A suggestion is made to consider a low-end server board system as a starting point for the build.
  • There is a discussion about the relevance of CPU and GPU capabilities in relation to the OP's needs, with some participants expressing confusion about the connection to the original question.
  • One participant shares their personal experience with a new nVidia video card for programming, emphasizing the importance of parallel processing capabilities over gaming.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of a powerful processor and sufficient RAM for the intended use, but there are differing opinions on the necessity and relevance of GPU capabilities and specific hardware recommendations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to meet the OP's needs.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the specific software requirements and how they relate to hardware choices. There is also a lack of consensus on the best components for the build, reflecting varying priorities and interpretations of the OP's needs.

Dan J
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Hey folks!

I'm a proud poppa of a dedicated physics and math student. He's outgrown his laptop and is interested in putting together a system exclusively for crunching numbers and doing physics and math related output. He does not require a gaming build (which seems to dominate the "build" community out there...!), but would like to assemble a powerful system that will last.

Our budget is around $1500. Room for expansion would be good, and any advice about operating system preference - and anything else - would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance for your help!

-DJ
 
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A reasonable-speed processor should be OK but your budget probably would allow a fast one. Big thing is to get lots of memory. 8 gigs minimum for going forward but your budget would probably allow for 16. It would also be a good idea to get a big hard drive (1 terabyte or more) and set it up as a dual-boot system with windows and linux that way it should be easy to handle any software needs.
 
Will he be running specialized software using big data sets?
 
Great - thanks, phinds... This is a first build, so I'm thankful for your advice!
 
Greg Bernhardt said:
Will he be running specialized software using big data sets?
Yeah, "big data sets" sounds like exactly what he's wanting to tackle...!
 
Dan J said:
Yeah, "big data sets" sounds like exactly what he's wanting to tackle...!
For $1500 you should be able to get the latest processor and 16GB of RAM.
 
From Wikipedia, "A CPU core can execute 4 32-bit instructions per clock (using a 128-bit SSE instruction) or 8 via AVX (256-Bit), whereas a GPU like the Radeon HD 5970 can execute 3200 32-bit instructions per clock (using its 3200 ALUs or shaders)." Some software packages like MATLAB are GPU compatible.
 
baudrunner said:
From Wikipedia, "A CPU core can execute 4 32-bit instructions per clock (using a 128-bit SSE instruction) or 8 via AVX (256-Bit), whereas a GPU like the Radeon HD 5970 can execute 3200 32-bit instructions per clock (using its 3200 ALUs or shaders)." Some software packages like MATLAB are GPU compatible.

that doesn't seem to make sense. WHAT wikipedia article?

And what does it have to do with the OP's question?
 
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baudrunner said:
From Wikipedia, "A CPU core can execute 4 32-bit instructions per clock (using a 128-bit SSE instruction) or 8 via AVX (256-Bit), whereas a GPU like the Radeon HD 5970 can execute 3200 32-bit instructions per clock (using its 3200 ALUs or shaders)." Some software packages like MATLAB are GPU compatible.

phinds said:
that doesn't seem to make sense. WHAT wikipedia article?
It makes sense to me. Current CPUs contain a handful of arithmetic logic units (ALUs), but some of the graphics processing units (GPUs) contain hundreds of cores that can run concurrently.
phinds said:
And what does it have to do with the OP's question?
I believe the connection is that MATLAB calculations can take advantage of a GPU like the Radeon mentioned. nVidia also is a big player in this market.
 
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Mark44 said:
It makes sense to me. Current CPUs contain a handful of arithmetic logic units (ALUs), but some of the graphics processing units (GPUs) contain hundreds of cores that can run concurrently.

I believe the connection is that MATLAB calculations can take advantage of a GPU like the Radeon mentioned. nVidia also is a big player in this market.

Ah ... that makes sense. Thanks.
 
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As an aside, I just got a new nVidia video card so that I can write some massively parallel code. I don't care at all about games and whatnot, but the programming capabilities are a draw to me.
 

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