Concentrated Photovoltaics, Parabolic Mirrors

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of using parabolic mirrors to focus light onto small solar panels, exploring the efficiency of concentrated photovoltaics compared to traditional solar panel fields. Participants discuss the theoretical and practical implications of this technology, including efficiency, cooling requirements, and potential designs.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that focusing light onto a small solar panel could be more efficient than using large fields of panels, referencing a solar plant in Arizona that uses concentrated light for steam turbines.
  • Another participant mentions that a concentration factor of around 2:1 might be feasible and questions the potential issues with higher concentrations, specifically regarding reverse leakage current.
  • A different participant notes that experiments at Madrid's Complutense University in 1994 achieved concentration factors greater than 20, highlighting that concentration can reduce the cost of collecting area and increase cell efficiency, provided that cooling is managed effectively.
  • Some participants discuss the advantages of using more expensive, efficient materials like monocrystalline silicon or GaAs as the cell area decreases due to concentration.
  • One participant expresses confusion about reverse leakage current, indicating a gap in understanding that may affect the discussion on higher concentration levels.
  • Another participant provides links to research papers summarizing advancements in photovoltaic concentrator technology, suggesting ongoing developments in the field.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the feasibility and efficiency of concentrated photovoltaics, with some supporting the idea while others raise concerns about technical challenges. No consensus is reached on the optimal concentration levels or the implications of reverse leakage current.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various assumptions regarding cooling requirements and the efficiency of different materials, but these aspects remain unresolved in the discussion.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring renewable energy technologies, particularly those focused on solar energy efficiency and photovoltaic systems.

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The idea of a parabolic mirror to focus light onto a small solar panel popped into my mind the other day. I searched Google and this is about the best thing I found-
http://www.greenrhinoenergy.com/solar/technologies/pv_concentration.php
and
http://www.aps.com/main/green/Solana/Technology.html

Wouldn't focusing light toward one little panel be way more efficient than the fields of panels that I keep seeing more and more of? It seems to me that the Arizona plant is using the heat from this concentrated light to boil water and turn steam turbines. Good idea but why not instead use the light itself pointed at a photovoltaic cell? Can someone help me make sense of this?
 
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mnmman said:
The idea of a parabolic mirror to focus light onto a small solar panel popped into my mind the other day. I searched Google and this is about the best thing I found-
http://www.greenrhinoenergy.com/solar/technologies/pv_concentration.php
and
http://www.aps.com/main/green/Solana/Technology.html

Wouldn't focusing light toward one little panel be way more efficient than the fields of panels that I keep seeing more and more of? It seems to me that the Arizona plant is using the heat from this concentrated light to boil water and turn steam turbines. Good idea but why not instead use the light itself pointed at a photovoltaic cell? Can someone help me make sense of this?

Welcome to the PF.

You could maybe do a 2:1 concentration or so. What issues do you see with doing a higher concentration of sunlight on solar cells? Have you learned about reverse leakage current yet?
 
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It was experimented the big scale at Madrid's Complutense university in 1994, with concentration factors >20.

Concentration is one sensible way to use photovoltaics, yes. Not only does it drop the cost of the collecting area, it also raises the cell's efficiency because the higher current density means a higher voltage... BUT this holds as long as you can cool the cells so (1) they don't burn (2) the leakage current stays reasonable.

Some designs put the cells against passive fin coolers in air. Others let a cooling liquid circulate.

An other avantage: as the cell area drops, you can afford more costly technology, like monocrystalline silicon, or GaAs, InP... which are more efficient.
 
berkeman said:
Welcome to the PF.

You could maybe do a 2:1 concentration or so. What issues do you see with doing a higher concentration of sunlight on solar cells? Have you learned about reverse leakage current yet?
I don't see any issues, other than what Enthalpy said, but I don't know much about electricity. I understand what leakage current is, but can't make sense of reverse leakage current.
 
mnmman, Welcome to Physics Forums!

Here is a description of two large large photovoltaic concentrator power systems:

Photovoltaic concentrator technology development:
Description/Abstract
This paper summarizes the progress that has been made in the past 18 months in the area of photovoltaic concentrator technology development. A brief description of the status of two new photovoltaic concentrator power systems, the 300 kW ENTECH-3M-Austin system, and the single-pedestal Alpha Solarco system is given.
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?osti_id=6909974

Here is an excellent review of many types of concentrators:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...ps3ZnU6QBepTj1sEw&sig2=co1U4TiE6EGUpFxLSuz1Qw
 
thanks for all the replies, looks like I got a lot to learn.
 

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