Conceptual question about momentum, impulse, and average force.

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The discussion revolves around a conceptual question regarding momentum, impulse, and average force in the context of two cars accelerating from rest to the same speed within the same time frame. The original poster presents a scenario with two cars of different masses and poses questions about their changes in momentum, impulse, and net average force.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to reason through the relationships between mass, momentum, and impulse, suggesting that the heavier car would have a greater change in momentum but believes impulse and average force are the same for both cars. Other participants question the reasoning behind these conclusions and prompt for clarification on the definitions of impulse and Newton's second law.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants affirming the correctness of part a while challenging the reasoning in parts b and c. Guidance has been offered to revisit the definitions of impulse and Newton's second law, indicating a productive direction for further exploration.

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The original poster expresses a need for conceptual understanding in light of an upcoming test, highlighting the importance of grasping these fundamental physics concepts.

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Homework Statement



In a performance test two cars take the same time to accelerate from rest up to the same speed. Car A has a mass of 1400 kg, and car B has a a mass of 1900 kg. During the rest, which car:

a)Has the greatest change in momentum?
b)Experiences the greatest impulse?
c)Is acted upon by the greatest net average force?

Homework Equations


P= mv
Impulse= F(change in T)


The Attempt at a Solution




a) I think that car B has a greater change in momentum because momentum is the product of the velocity and mass, and car B has a greater mass which means the difference or CHANGE will be greater as well.

b) I think the impulse will be the SAME for both cars because the problem states that it takes both cars the SAME time to accelerate and reach the same speed. Which means their force is the same. The fact that both cars have different masses does NOT play a role in the impulse. The fact that one car is heavier just means that the CAR will have to work harder to get the SAME acceleration as the lighter car.

c) Both forces are the same I believe due to my explanation on part (b).
 
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part a is correct,but parts b and c are not. What is the equation for impulse in part b? The answer to part c should readily follow.
 
PhanthomJay said:
part a is correct,but parts b and c are not. What is the equation for impulse in part b? The answer to part c should readily follow.

Why is my logic incorrect? Why is your logic correct? Can you please explain? I have a test coming up and I am trying to grasp some conceptual questions:)
 
You correctly answered part a by noting the definition of momentum. Now you need to note the definition of impulse, or better yet, write down Newton's 2nd law and examine it's concept. Also, if the heavier car has to work harder to achieve that acceleration and speed in the same time, this may help in part c as well.
 

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