Conformal invariance of null geodesics

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The discussion revolves around proving that the null geodesics of two conformally related metrics coincide, as presented in a self-study context using D'Inverno's "Introducing Einstein's Relativity." The original poster seeks validation of their approach to the problem.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to relate the parameterization of null geodesics to a conformal factor, raising questions about the validity of their proof. Some participants question the appropriateness of this parameterization, suggesting it may not hold for all conformal transformations. Others point out that the original equation used does not represent the geodesic equation, leading to further exploration of the correct approach.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing critical feedback on the original poster's approach. There is a recognition of the need to reference additional resources, such as Wald's book, which has been noted to clarify the topic further. The discussion is ongoing, with multiple interpretations and methods being explored.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion regarding the definitions and assumptions related to geodesics and null curves, as well as the implications of using a specific parameterization in the proof. The original poster's reliance on D'Inverno's text and the subsequent reference to Wald's work highlight the varying approaches to understanding the problem.

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Hi, folks. I hope this is the right forum for this question. I'm not actually taking any classes, but I am doing self-study using D'Inverno's Introducing Einstein's Relativity. I have a solution, and I want someone to check it for me.

Homework Statement


Prove that the null geodesics of two conformally related metrics coincide.


Homework Equations


Conformally related metrics: \overline{g}ab = \Omega2gab
Null geodesics: 0 = gab(dxa/du)(dxb/du)


The Attempt at a Solution


I define the parameter u = \frac{1}{2}\Omega2. Thus \frac{du}{d\Omega} = \Omega.

Now, I use the chain rule on the null geodesics equation:
0 = \Omega2gab(dxa/d\Omega)\frac{d\Omega}{du}(dxb/d\Omega)\frac{d\Omega}{du}
0 = \Omega2gab(dxa/d\Omega)(dxb/d\Omega)(\frac{du}{d\Omega})-2
0 = \Omega2gab(dxa/d\Omega)(dxb/d\Omega)\Omega-2
0 = gab(dxa/d\Omega)(dxb/d\Omega), which is the null geodesics equation with the new parameter \Omega.

So is this a legitimate proof of the coinciding of null geodesics of conformally related metrics?
 
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Bump; can anyone help me?
 
Hmm... is u a parameter for the geodesic? If so, I don't think you can relate it to Ω like that, because the proof should work for arbitrary conformal transformations including (for example) those where Ω is a constant.
 
PhyPsy said:
Bump; can anyone help me?

No, it's not right. 0 = gab(dxa/du)(dxb/du) isn't the geodesic equation. It's just says that it's a null curve. And those are obviously conformally invariant. Not all null curves are null geodesics. If you want to see the right way to do it look at Appendix D in Robert Wald's book General Relativity.
 
OK, I see now that I should be using the equation:
d2xa/ds2 + \Gammaabc(dxb/ds)(dxc/ds) = 0

Unfortunately, I am coming up with
d2xa/ds2 + {\Gammaabc + (\deltaac\partialb\Omega + \deltaab\partialc\Omega - gadgbc\partiald\Omega) / \Omega}(dxb/ds)(dxc/ds) = 0
as the transformation. I don't see how that is invariant unless d\Omega = 0, and I don't see any reason to make that assumption.

I think I will try looking for that Wald book you mentioned.

Update: Wow, thanks for that tip, Dick. The explanation in the Wald book really cleared things up. It starts by using the affine geodesic equation,
Xa\nablaaXb = 0,
and uses a relation between covariant derivatives that I did not find in the Inverno book:
\overline{\nabla}aXb = \nablaaXb + TbacXc

I find how Tbac transforms conformally and get this equation:
Xa\nablaaXb = 2XaXb\nablaa(ln \Omega) - gbdgacXaXc\nablad(ln \Omega)

Since it is a null geodesic, gacXaXc = 0, so the equation reduces to:
Xa\nablaaXb = 2XaXb\nablaa(ln \Omega)

The non-affine geodesic equation is Xa\nablaaXb = \lambdaXb, so I just define \lambda = 2Xa\nablaa(ln \Omega), and the geodesic equation is satisfied. This is why the Inverno book gave the hint that both equations need not be affinely parametized.
 
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