Confusing Derivation of torque acting on disk question

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Homework Statement
A disk of mass M and angular speed w falls into table top. The kenetic coffienet of friction from table top is meu. Create an equation for dt=dr *F. Using this information.
Relevant Equations
Menu kenetic Mg = Friction
Iaplha = torque
Fr = torque
Photo of a textbook page showing Figure 9-51 Problem 62, a multistep problem about a uniform horizontal disk of mass M and radius R spinning and dropped onto a tabletop, with parts (a) to (c) on torque and stopping time.

Not sure how they obtained an answer of (2meukenetic *Mg/R^2)*r^2 dr = dt
When they say disk I am assuming it's not ring shaped. So since F * Dr= DT where I guess F acting on a small point on the disc is constant from the table top. And Dr is the variable distance from a random small point from the axis which summed together times force give total torque. I plug in F friction using mgmeu. Not to sure where to go from there.
 
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The disk as a whole, lying on the tabletop, exerts a force ##M g## on the table surface, right? Assuming that the weight is evenly distributed over the entire disk-table interface, that means that the disk presents a pressure of ##Mg/\pi R^2##.

A given circular element of the disk will have an area associated with it (##\pi r^2 dr##). What is the force associated with that area element (you've got pressure and area)? Work out the ##d\tau## that that circular element will provide.
 
gneill said:
The disk as a whole, lying on the tabletop, exerts a force ##M g## on the table surface, right? Assuming that the weight is evenly distributed over the entire disk-table interface, that means that the disk presents a pressure of ##Mg/\pi R^2##.

A given circular element of the disk will have an area associated with it (##\pi r^2 dr##). What is the force associated with that area element (you've got pressure and area)? Work out the ##d\tau## that that circular element will provide.
Makes sense so (meu mg/R^2 )* r^2 *Dr which gives me a torque, not sure where they got the 2 from? Which is on the numerator next to the meu value. Finally got one more question if you can bear with me. Would the meu mg the friction be dF instead as we are taking only a small circular position about the rotating axis? So it becomes meu*dm*g ? If we aren't assuming anything.
 
Bonbon32 said:
Makes sense so (meu mg/R^2 )* r^2 *Dr which gives me a torque, not sure where they got the 2 from?
What's the area of the circular element of radius r and width dr?
Diagram of a thin annular ring on a disk: a centre point with radius line r drawn to the ring, and a small radial width labelled dr across the ring's thickness.

Bonbon32 said:
Would the meu mg the friction be dF instead as we are taking only a small circular position about the rotating axis? So it becomes meu*dm*g ?
Force is pressure times area. so the frictional force contribution for a given area element becomes ##dF = P \times dA##, where dA is the differential area element.

By the way, you can find a table of mathematical letters and symbols in the edit window top bar menu if you click on the ##\sqrt{x}## icon. There you will find, for example, the Greek letter μ. You don't need to call it "meu", if you can use the actual letter.

[edit] Added an image to clarify what a "circular element" refers to.
 
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