MHB Confusing Implicit Differentiation Problem

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The discussion centers on the implicit differentiation of the equation x = (x^2 + y^2)^(1/2). The user initially differentiates correctly but struggles with the subsequent steps, leading to an incorrect expression for y'. Another participant points out that the derivative should actually be zero, suggesting that squaring both sides of the original equation clarifies this. The user acknowledges the oversight, realizing that the numerator in their derived expression is zero. The conversation highlights the importance of verifying steps in implicit differentiation.
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Hi,

I have

x =(x^2+y^2)^[1/2]

I differentiate

1= 1/2 (x^2+y^2)[-1/2] (2x+2yy')

So far so good. I try to multiply this out.

1= (2x)/2 (x^2+y^2)[-1/2] + (2yy'/2)(x^2+y^2)[-1/2]

I solve for y'

y'= 1/{(x (x^2+y^2)[-1/2]} / {y(x^2+y^2)[-1/2] }

1/x (x^2+y^2)[1/2] * 1/y (x^2+y^2)[1/2]

The square roots multiply out.

y'=(x^2+y^2)/xy

yet the correct response is

y'=[(x^2+y^2)^1/2 -x] / y

Am I missing something?

Thanks
 
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I can't follow what you did after attempting to solve for $y'$.

We are given:

$$x=\left(x^2+y^2 \right)^{\frac{1}{2}}$$

Implicitly differentiating, we obtain:

$$1=\frac{x+yy'}{\left(x^2+y^2 \right)^{\frac{1}{2}}}$$

or:

$$\left(x^2+y^2 \right)^{\frac{1}{2}}=x+yy'$$

Solve for $y'$:

$$y'=\frac{\left(x^2+y^2 \right)^{\frac{1}{2}}-x}{y}$$
 
tmt said:
Hi,

I have

x =(x^2+y^2)^[1/2]

I differentiate

1= 1/2 (x^2+y^2)[-1/2] (2x+2yy')

So far so good. I try to multiply this out.

1= (2x)/2 (x^2+y^2)[-1/2] + (2yy'/2)(x^2+y^2)[-1/2]

I solve for y'

y'= 1/{(x (x^2+y^2)[-1/2]} / {y(x^2+y^2)[-1/2] }

1/x (x^2+y^2)[1/2] * 1/y (x^2+y^2)[1/2]

The square roots multiply out.

y'=(x^2+y^2)/xy

yet the correct response is

y'=[(x^2+y^2)^1/2 -x] / y

Am I missing something?

Thanks

Surely the derivative is 0. Don't believe me, square both sides of your original equation and see what you're left with...
 
Prove It said:
Surely the derivative is 0. Don't believe me, square both sides of your original equation and see what you're left with...

Nice...I didn't catch that even though the numerator in the expression I derived is clearly zero via the original equation. (Smirk)
 
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