Confusing Implicit Differentiation Problem

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The forum discussion centers on the implicit differentiation of the equation \( x = (x^2 + y^2)^{1/2} \). The user initially derives \( y' = \frac{(x^2 + y^2)^{1/2} - x}{y} \) but mistakenly arrives at \( y' = \frac{x^2 + y^2}{xy} \). The correct response highlights that the derivative simplifies to zero when squaring both sides of the original equation, revealing a misunderstanding in the differentiation process.

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Hi,

I have

x =(x^2+y^2)^[1/2]

I differentiate

1= 1/2 (x^2+y^2)[-1/2] (2x+2yy')

So far so good. I try to multiply this out.

1= (2x)/2 (x^2+y^2)[-1/2] + (2yy'/2)(x^2+y^2)[-1/2]

I solve for y'

y'= 1/{(x (x^2+y^2)[-1/2]} / {y(x^2+y^2)[-1/2] }

1/x (x^2+y^2)[1/2] * 1/y (x^2+y^2)[1/2]

The square roots multiply out.

y'=(x^2+y^2)/xy

yet the correct response is

y'=[(x^2+y^2)^1/2 -x] / y

Am I missing something?

Thanks
 
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I can't follow what you did after attempting to solve for $y'$.

We are given:

$$x=\left(x^2+y^2 \right)^{\frac{1}{2}}$$

Implicitly differentiating, we obtain:

$$1=\frac{x+yy'}{\left(x^2+y^2 \right)^{\frac{1}{2}}}$$

or:

$$\left(x^2+y^2 \right)^{\frac{1}{2}}=x+yy'$$

Solve for $y'$:

$$y'=\frac{\left(x^2+y^2 \right)^{\frac{1}{2}}-x}{y}$$
 
tmt said:
Hi,

I have

x =(x^2+y^2)^[1/2]

I differentiate

1= 1/2 (x^2+y^2)[-1/2] (2x+2yy')

So far so good. I try to multiply this out.

1= (2x)/2 (x^2+y^2)[-1/2] + (2yy'/2)(x^2+y^2)[-1/2]

I solve for y'

y'= 1/{(x (x^2+y^2)[-1/2]} / {y(x^2+y^2)[-1/2] }

1/x (x^2+y^2)[1/2] * 1/y (x^2+y^2)[1/2]

The square roots multiply out.

y'=(x^2+y^2)/xy

yet the correct response is

y'=[(x^2+y^2)^1/2 -x] / y

Am I missing something?

Thanks

Surely the derivative is 0. Don't believe me, square both sides of your original equation and see what you're left with...
 
Prove It said:
Surely the derivative is 0. Don't believe me, square both sides of your original equation and see what you're left with...

Nice...I didn't catch that even though the numerator in the expression I derived is clearly zero via the original equation. (Smirk)
 

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