Confusion about Corotational and Lindblad resonance

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the definitions and applications of corotational and Lindblad resonances, particularly in the context of ring particles and satellites. Participants express confusion regarding these concepts and seek clarification on their differences and implications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant defines corotational resonance as occurring when the orbit moves at the same angular speed as the forcing, while Lindblad resonance is described as an orbital resonance where an object's epicyclic frequency is a simple multiple of some forcing frequency.
  • Another participant suggests that a space elevator could serve as an example of corotational resonance, noting that the tension on the string remains constant and forces rotate with the station's orbit.
  • This participant also mentions the tidal locking of the moon as an example of corotational resonance.
  • There is a query about the relationship between Lindblad and corotational resonances, with one participant expressing difficulty in understanding how Lindblad resonance operates.
  • A later reply proposes that corotational resonance is the fundamental Lindblad resonance, with higher order Lindblad resonances corresponding to orbits with higher frequencies.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express confusion and seek clarification, indicating that multiple competing views remain regarding the definitions and applications of corotational and Lindblad resonances. The discussion does not reach a consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight difficulties in applying the concepts to specific examples, such as ring particles and satellites, and express uncertainty about the workings of inner and outer Lindblad resonances.

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Hi, I’m a bit confused about the definitions of corotational and Lindblad resonances. They’re given by;

Corotational resonance
This resonance occurs when the orbit moves at the same angular speed as the forcing.

Lindblad resonance
an orbital resonance in which an object's epicyclic frequency is a simple multiple of some forcing frequency.

I cannot seem to grasp these concepts when applying it to a ring particle and a satellite. What’s the difference between an orbital and corotational resonance? I’m also having difficulty understanding how inner and outer Lindblad resonances work too.
 
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Aurorana said:
Hi, I’m a bit confused about the definitions of corotational and Lindblad resonances. They’re given by;

Corotational resonance
This resonance occurs when the orbit moves at the same angular speed as the forcing.

Lindblad resonance
an orbital resonance in which an object's epicyclic frequency is a simple multiple of some forcing frequency.

I cannot seem to grasp these concepts when applying it to a ring particle and a satellite. What’s the difference between an orbital and corotational resonance? I’m also having difficulty understanding how inner and outer Lindblad resonances work too.

I think a space elevator might work as an example of corotational. The tension on the string is constant. Forces rotate with the station's orbit and the planet. Also the tide on the moon. The moon is tidal locked with the same face always pointing at earth. Pluto and Charon are co-rotating.

Deviant stars get kicked around. The resonant effect is in the empty space.
 
Thank you, that helps. As for Lindblad resonances, how can they be associated with a corotation resonance? I’m having difficulty understanding how a lindblad resonance works
 
A Corotational resonance is the first - the fundamental - Lindblad resonance. Higher order Lindblad resonances correspond to orbits with higher frequencies. Does that make any sense to you?
 

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