Connected bodies - Spring and 2 blocks

In summary, a block of mass m is connected to another block of mass M by a massless spring of spring constant k on a smooth horizontal plane. Initially at rest, a constant force F starts acting on M causing it to move and the spring to extend. The maximum extension of the spring can be determined by working from the reference frame of the center of mass of the system, or by using the equation F1x1 + F2x2 = 0.5k(x2-x1)^2. However, the latter method may not yield accurate results as it ignores the intermediate stages of the movement.
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Homework Statement


A block of mass m is connected to another block of mass M by a massless spring of spring constant k. The blocks are kept on a smooth horizontal plane. Initially, the blocks are at rest and the spring is unstretched when a constant force F starts acting on the block of mass M to pull it. Find the max. extension of the spring.


The Attempt at a Solution



I can find the answer working from the reference frame of COM of the system of 2 blocks and spring.

I am interested in finding it from ground frame.

Net force on M, F1 = F-kx, where x is the extension in the spring
Net force on m, F2 = kx

Let the displacements of the two blocks be x1 and x2.

F1x1 + F2x2 =0.5k(x2-x1)2 (x2-x1 is the extension produced)

I am unable to find another equation.
 
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Abdul Quadeer said:
F1x1 + F2x2 =0.5k(x2-x1)2 (x2-x1 is the extension produced)

You should not include F2x2. Only include external forces!
But anyway this even won't give you result :frown:

I don't know if you can just subtract the forces or not.
I mean as soon as force F will act, body will start to move ... with even little expansion in spring, m2 will move with force kx'
this force will inc. with time till kxmax
I am not sure if you can just use the initial and final conditions and ignore the intermediate stages!
well I'm still trying and tell you my progress!
 
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Did you come up with something?
 

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