Connected bodies - Spring and 2 blocks

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on a physics problem involving two blocks connected by a massless spring on a smooth horizontal plane, with a constant force F acting on the block of mass M. The goal is to determine the maximum extension of the spring, utilizing the center of mass (COM) reference frame. Participants analyze the net forces acting on both blocks, specifically F1 = F - kx for block M and F2 = kx for block m, while debating the inclusion of intermediate forces and conditions in their calculations.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Newton's laws of motion
  • Knowledge of spring mechanics and Hooke's Law
  • Familiarity with the concept of center of mass (COM)
  • Basic proficiency in solving differential equations related to motion
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the application of Newton's second law in multi-body systems
  • Explore the principles of energy conservation in spring systems
  • Learn about the dynamics of coupled oscillators
  • Investigate the effects of external forces on spring-mass systems
USEFUL FOR

Students and educators in physics, particularly those focusing on mechanics, as well as anyone interested in understanding the dynamics of spring systems and force interactions in multi-body setups.

zorro
Messages
1,378
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


A block of mass m is connected to another block of mass M by a massless spring of spring constant k. The blocks are kept on a smooth horizontal plane. Initially, the blocks are at rest and the spring is unstretched when a constant force F starts acting on the block of mass M to pull it. Find the max. extension of the spring.


The Attempt at a Solution



I can find the answer working from the reference frame of COM of the system of 2 blocks and spring.

I am interested in finding it from ground frame.

Net force on M, F1 = F-kx, where x is the extension in the spring
Net force on m, F2 = kx

Let the displacements of the two blocks be x1 and x2.

F1x1 + F2x2 =0.5k(x2-x1)2 (x2-x1 is the extension produced)

I am unable to find another equation.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Abdul Quadeer said:
F1x1 + F2x2 =0.5k(x2-x1)2 (x2-x1 is the extension produced)

You should not include F2x2. Only include external forces!
But anyway this even won't give you result :frown:

I don't know if you can just subtract the forces or not.
I mean as soon as force F will act, body will start to move ... with even little expansion in spring, m2 will move with force kx'
this force will inc. with time till kxmax
I am not sure if you can just use the initial and final conditions and ignore the intermediate stages!
well I'm still trying and tell you my progress!
 
Did you come up with something?
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
1K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
Replies
17
Views
2K
Replies
29
Views
3K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
1K
Replies
24
Views
4K
Replies
16
Views
3K
Replies
8
Views
6K
  • · Replies 19 ·
Replies
19
Views
3K