Conservation of angular momentum (central force)

In summary, in a central force problem, the angular momentum is conserved. One of the components, Lz, is quantized along with the overall angular momentum, L = √l(l+1)h_bar. However, if we know Lx and Ly without uncertainty, then we know the direction of L and can determine the particle's motion in the x-y plane. This contradicts the uncertainty principle, showing that we cannot know both Lx and Ly without uncertainty. This also means that the direction of the angular momentum is uncertain and constantly changing in quantum mechanics. However, the overall angular momentum is still conserved in QM, meaning that the probability distribution of its possible values does not change with time.
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In a central force problem,
angular momentum is conserved.
we quantized one of the component of L, say Lz.
Also, we quantized the angular momentum, L = √l(l+1)h_bar
If we know Lx and Ly without uncertainty,
then we know the direction of L.

Hence we know the motion of the particle is confined in a plane(let say x-y plane).
Then we know exactly the position in z direction, which contradicts the uncertainty principle.Hence, we can't know Lx and Ly without uncertainty.

Does that mean the direction of the angular momentum is uncertain ?
So, can we say angular momentum is conserved ?
One more Thing (particle in a box)
Can I say E = (p^2 /2m) ?
coz E is quantized, so quantization of p violates the uncertainty principle.
What's wrong?
 
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HAMJOOP said:
Hence, we can't know Lx and Ly without uncertainty.

You can already get this from the fact that Lx and Ly don't commute, so it's impossible to have a state with definite values of both Lx and Ly.

HAMJOOP said:
Does that mean the direction of the angular momentum is uncertain ?

Yes.

HAMJOOP said:
So, can we say angular momentum is conserved ?

Yes. Lx, Ly, and Lz are all conserved quantities. In QM this essentially means that the probability distribution of the possible values of Lx (say) does not change with time.
 
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In classical mechanics, we say angular momentum is conserved when its magnitude and direction are constant for all time.

But in quantum mechanics, the direction of angular momentum is uncertain.
So, can I say its direction is changing all the time ??
 
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HAMJOOP said:
But in quantum mechanics, the direction of angular momentum is uncertain.
So, can I say its direction is changing all the time ??

You can say it, but that doesn't make it right :smile:

It would be better to say that it doesn't have a direction until you've measured it (that's not really right either, but it's much less likely to lead you astray when you come to some of the more difficult problems of interpreting QM. You might want to take a look at this web page for more background).
 

1. What is conservation of angular momentum?

Conservation of angular momentum is a fundamental law of physics that states that the total angular momentum of a system remains constant as long as there is no external torque acting on the system.

2. How does conservation of angular momentum apply to central force?

Central force is a type of force that acts on an object in a circular or elliptical path. Conservation of angular momentum applies to central force because the total angular momentum of the object remains constant as it moves along its path.

3. What is the relationship between angular momentum and rotational inertia?

Angular momentum is directly proportional to rotational inertia, which is the measure of an object's resistance to rotational motion. As the rotational inertia increases, so does the angular momentum.

4. Can conservation of angular momentum be violated?

No, conservation of angular momentum is a fundamental law of physics and cannot be violated as long as there is no external torque acting on the system.

5. How is conservation of angular momentum important in understanding celestial bodies?

Conservation of angular momentum plays a crucial role in understanding the motion of celestial bodies such as planets, moons, and stars. It explains why these bodies continue to orbit around each other without any external forces acting on them.

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