Conservation of Angular Momentum Homework Help

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The problem involves a student on a swivel seat who is holding a spinning bicycle wheel. The scenario describes the reversal of the wheel's angular velocity and its effect on the student's rotation, with specific moments of inertia provided for both the wheel and the student.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conservation of angular momentum and the relationship between initial and final angular velocities. There is an exploration of the equations involving moments of inertia and angular velocities, with some questioning the assumptions made about the final angular velocity.

Discussion Status

Some participants are attempting to apply the conservation of angular momentum principle, while others are reflecting on potential calculation errors and the need for additional information to fully address the problem. There is no explicit consensus on the correct final angular velocity.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem may lack sufficient information to account for all factors influencing the final angular velocity, particularly regarding the motion of the wheel's axis in relation to the student's rotation.

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Homework Statement


"A student sits on a swivel seat. Initially the student is at rest, holding a spinning bicycle wheel that has an angular velocity of 12.6 rad/s (see figure below). The student turns the spinning wheel upside down, reversing the direction of its angular velocity. This causes the student to begin to rotate. Find the student's final angular velocity. The moments of inertia of the wheel and of the student are 0.340 kg · m2 and 2.25 kg · m2 respectively."
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Homework Equations


How do you find the final angular velocity with the given information?


The Attempt at a Solution


Well since initial momentum is equal to final momentum, IWo = IWf +iw, where I is the moment of inertia of the wheel, Wo is the initial angular velocity of the wheel, Wf is the final angular velocity of the wheel, i is the moment of inertia of the girl, and w is the angular velocity of the girl. So, (I(Wo-Wf))/i = w. I guessed that Wf would equal -Wo, but I was mistaken, or I made a calculation error.
Thanks in advance for your help :D
 
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hb94 said:
Well since initial momentum is equal to final momentum, IWo = IWf +iw, where I is the moment of inertia of the wheel, Wo is the initial angular velocity of the wheel, Wf is the final angular velocity of the wheel, i is the moment of inertia of the girl, and w is the angular velocity of the girl. So, (I(Wo-Wf))/i = w. I guessed that Wf would equal -Wo, but I was mistaken, or I made a calculation error.
How do you know?

At any rate, your procedure seems to be correct. One additional thing you could think about is the fact that in the final situation, the wheel is not only spinning around its own axis, but also that axis is revolving around the girl's rotational axis. But in order for you to take that into account, I think they would have to give you more information, so I have my doubts that that is what's causing your problem.
 
Well, I(Wo-Wf)/i = 3.808, and if these are the only factors applied to the problem, then I got the wrong answer.
 
You forgot the units...

What's the right answer supposed to be?
 

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