Conservation of energy across the universe

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The discussion centers on the law of conservation of energy and its implications regarding the origins of the universe, specifically questioning whether all energy from the Big Bang must predate it. Participants explore the relationship between conservation laws and theories such as string theory, which posits a ten-dimensional universe. A key point raised is the difficulty in applying the conservation of energy to the universe as a whole, as highlighted by the differential form of the law described by John Baez. The conversation concludes that circumstantial evidence does not support the validity of string theory in this context.

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  • Understanding of the law of conservation of energy
  • Familiarity with string theory and its dimensional framework
  • Knowledge of general relativity and its implications on energy
  • Basic grasp of circumstantial evidence in scientific discourse
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  • Research the differential form of the law of conservation of energy as described by John Baez
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  • Investigate the concept of dark energy and its scientific implications
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Physicists, cosmologists, and anyone interested in the foundational principles of energy conservation and its implications for the universe's origins.

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Conservation of energy

Is the law of conservation of energy absolute?

If so, doesn't it follow that all the energy of the big bang came from somewhere? That the energy of our universe must predate the big bang?

Isn't that circumstantial evidence of the validity of string theory which presupposes there was a 10 dimensional universe which broke down into a 6 and a 4.

The implosion/ explosion of the inner 7 dimensions being the origin of our 4 and the event in question classically described as "Big Bang"?

Just curious. I had jury duty 2 weeks ago and I learned about circumstantial evidence and how it is enough to establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Isn't circumstantial evidence the reason scientists created dark energy? Since we can't see it or know anything about it directly?Doc
 
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K. Doc Holiday said:
Is the law of conservation of energy absolute?
If so, doesn't it follow that all the energy of the big bang came from somewhere? That the energy of our universe must predate the big bang?
There's no unambiguous way of defining all "the energy of our universe", which makes it hard to use conservation of energy for the universe as a whole. However, we can phrase the law more precisely, and then it works: Take a small volume of space. The total amount of energy contained in this volume will be what started out there, plus what flowed in, less what flowed out. This is the "differential form" of the law of conservation of energy described by Baez here: http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/GR/energy_gr.html

Isn't that circumstantial evidence of the validity of string theory which presupposes there was a 10 dimensional universe which broke down into a 6 and a 4.
No. There's no relationship at all here.
 
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