Conservation of Energy block of mass

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The problem involves a block of mass m1 released from a wedge of mass m2 on a frictionless surface. The goal is to determine the height h of the wedge based on the block's velocity when it leaves the wedge.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of conservation of energy, initially focusing on kinetic and potential energy. There is a realization that the kinetic energy of the wedge must also be considered, leading to further exploration of conservation principles.

Discussion Status

The discussion has evolved with participants recognizing the need to account for additional factors, such as the kinetic energy of the wedge. Some have expressed understanding and indicated they have found answers, while others are still clarifying their reasoning.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the wedge is not stationary, which affects the conservation principles applicable to the problem. There is an indication of confusion regarding the initial approach and the completeness of energy considerations.

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A small block of mass m1 = 0.600 kg is released from rest at the top of a curved wedge of mass m2 = 4.50 kg, which sits on a frictionless horizontal surface as in Figure P6.59a. When the block leaves the wedge, its velocity is measured to be 4.00 m/s to the right, as in Figure P6.59b.

p6-59.gif


What is the height h of the wedge?

Isn't this problem just conservation of energy
I did
KE+PE initial = KE + PE final
0 + mgh = 1/2 mv^2 + 0 and solve for h v is 4.0 m/s
9.8 h = 8
h= .82
but it saids i am wrong, please help
 
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SamTsui86 said:
A small block of mass m1 = 0.600 kg is released from rest at the top of a curved wedge of mass m2 = 4.50 kg, which sits on a frictionless horizontal surface as in Figure P6.59a. When the block leaves the wedge, its velocity is measured to be 4.00 m/s to the right, as in Figure P6.59b.

p6-59.gif


What is the height h of the wedge?

Isn't this problem just conservation of energy
I did
KE+PE initial = KE + PE final
0 + mgh = 1/2 mv^2 + 0 and solve for h v is 4.0 m/s
9.8 h = 8
h= .82
but it saids i am wrong, please help
It is not just conservation of energy, and you have not accounted for all of the energy. The wedge is not stationary in this problem. What is conserved?
 
oh i understand now, i have to include the kinetic energy of the wedge in the formula, thank you
 
SamTsui86 said:
oh i understand now, i have to include the kinetic energy of the wedge in the formula, thank you
And you have to include another conservation principle
 
oh ok, i got the answer now, thank you
 

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