Conservation of Energy Block Velocity Problem

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The problem involves a block sliding along a frictionless track and compressing a spring, with specific parameters including a circular section, a horizontal span with kinetic friction, and the need to calculate velocities and energy transformations at various points.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the calculations for the block's velocity at different points, the thermal energy produced due to friction, and the spring constant. There are questions about the correctness of the equations used and the assumptions regarding energy conservation and spring compression.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the relationships between kinetic energy and potential energy in springs, while others have questioned the accuracy of specific calculations and the setup of equations. There appears to be ongoing exploration of the problem without a definitive consensus on all aspects.

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Participants note the importance of visualizing the problem correctly and the need for clarity in the equations used, particularly regarding the compression distance of the spring.

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Homework Statement


Consider the track shown in the figure. The section AB is one quadrant of a circle of radius r = 2.0 m and is frictionless. B to C is a horizontal span 3.3 m long with a coefficient of kinetic friction µk = 0.25. The section CD under the spring is frictionless. A block of mass 1 kg is released from rest at A. After sliding on the track, it compresses the spring by 0.20 m.

a)Determine the velocity of the block at point B.
b)Determine the thermal energy produced as the block slides from B to C.
c)Determine the velocity of the block at point C.
d)Determine the stiffness constant k for the spring.

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



I have been trying to solve this all night and have gotten this far:

a) V=square root of 2(9.8m/s^2)(2m) V=6.26m/s
b) (.25)(9.8m/s^2)(3.3m)(1kg)=8.09 J
c) 1/2(1kg)V^2-1/2(1kg)(6.26m/s)^2=-8.09J V=4.80m/s
d) -1/2(1kg)(4.80m/s)^2=1/2(-k)5.5m k=4.19N/m

Are any of these correct?

Please help me figure this out, it is due by the end of the day Thursday 10/16.
 
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Hi Bones,

If possible, it would probably be good to upload an image for this problem somewhere to make sure there is no misunderstanding.

Bones said:

Homework Statement


Consider the track shown in the figure. The section AB is one quadrant of a circle of radius r = 2.0 m and is frictionless. B to C is a horizontal span 3.3 m long with a coefficient of kinetic friction µk = 0.25. The section CD under the spring is frictionless. A block of mass 1 kg is released from rest at A. After sliding on the track, it compresses the spring by 0.20 m.

a)Determine the velocity of the block at point B.
b)Determine the thermal energy produced as the block slides from B to C.
c)Determine the velocity of the block at point C.
d)Determine the stiffness constant k for the spring.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I have been trying to solve this all night and have gotten this far:

a) V=square root of 2(9.8m/s^2)(2m) V=6.26m/s
b) (.25)(9.8m/s^2)(3.3m)(1kg)=8.09 J
c) 1/2(1kg)V^2-1/2(1kg)(6.26m/s)^2=-8.09J V=4.80m/s
d) -1/2(1kg)(4.80m/s)^2=1/2(-k)5.5m k=4.19N/m

I don't think the right side of this equation is correct. What is the formula for the potential energy stored in a spring? And isn't the spring only compressed by 0.2m?
 
"At the spring, use the velocity to find it's kinetic energy again. Energy and work interchange, and the work to compress a spring is 1/2*Spring constant*Compression distance^2"

-1/2(1kg)(4.80m/s)^2=1/2(-k)(0.2m)^2 k=576N/m

Is this better?
 
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Bones said:
"At the spring, use the velocity to find it's kinetic energy again. Energy and work interchange, and the work to compress a spring is 1/2*Spring constant*Compression distance^2"

-1/2(1kg)(4.80m/s)^2=1/2(-k)(0.2m)^2 k=576N/m

Is this better?

Yes, that looks better. (And I hope I am visualizing this correctly!)
 
It worked out, thanks for the help ;)
 
Glad to help!
 

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