Conservation of energy for a series of elastic collisions

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The discussion centers on the conservation of energy in a series of elastic collisions, specifically analyzing the speed of a block after multiple collisions. The initial claim that the speed after the nth collision is given by the formula $$ V_n=(2e)^n*v_0 $$ is challenged. The correct expression, as referenced from equations 5.155 and 5.156, is $$ V_n=2e(1-2e)^{n-1}*v_0 $$, which accounts for the diminishing speed due to energy loss in each collision.

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Conservation of energy
The speed of the block after the nth collision is

$$ V_n=(2e)^n*v_0 $$

By conservation of energy the block travels a distance $$V_n^2/(2ug)$$ on the nth bounce. So the total distance is

$$ d=1/(2ug)∗(v_0^2+(2ev_0)^2...) $$

$$ d=1/(2ug)∗(v_0^2/(1−4e^2)) $$

$$ d=1/(2ug)∗(v_0^2∗M^2/(M^2−4m^2)) $$


Can someone explain why this is incorrect?
 
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I don't believe the following is correct (other than for n = 1).
Andrew1235 said:
The speed of the block after the nth collision is

$$ V_n=(2e)^n*v_0 $$
Can you explain how you got this?
 
Andrew1235 said:
The speed of the block after the nth collision is
$$ V_n=(2e)^n*v_0 $$
According to 5.155 and 5.156, it should be
$$ V_n=2e(1-2e)^{n-1}*v_0 $$
 

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