Conservation of energy of a pendulum

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The discussion focuses on the conservation of energy in a pendulum system that includes a spring. The pendulum bob, with mass m and length L, is released from an angle θ, and the spring, with a force constant k, is fixed to the floor below the pendulum support. The key conclusion is that the potential energy (PE) of the spring must be accounted for when the pendulum is pulled aside, and at the lowest point, all energy is converted to kinetic energy (KE) as the spring is unstressed. The expression for the speed of the pendulum bob at its lowest point can be derived using these energy principles.

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  • Understanding of basic physics concepts such as potential energy (PE) and kinetic energy (KE).
  • Familiarity with Hooke's Law and spring constants (k).
  • Knowledge of pendulum motion and angular displacement.
  • Ability to apply conservation of energy principles in mechanical systems.
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  • Derive the expression for the speed of the pendulum bob using conservation of energy principles.
  • Explore the effects of varying the spring constant (k) on the pendulum's motion.
  • Investigate the dynamics of pendulum systems with different mass (m) and length (L) configurations.
  • Learn about the mathematical modeling of oscillatory motion in spring-pendulum systems.
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A pendulum is suspended from the ceiling and attached to a
spring fixed to the floor directly below the pendulum support. The
mass of the pendulum bob is m, the length of the pendulum is L, and the force
constant is k. The unstressed length of the spring is L/2 and the distance between
the floor and ceiling is 1.5L. The pendulum is pulled aside so that it makes an
angle θ with the vertical and is then released from rest. Obtain an expression for
the speed of the pendulum bob as the bob passes through a point directly below
the pendulum support.

I'll set point 1, when the pendulum is about to move and point 2, when it reaches the lowest point. Then use conservation of energy. I'm not sure, where to include the potential energy of the spring. Please, help.
 
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knowNothing23 said:
A pendulum is suspended from the ceiling and attached to a
spring fixed to the floor directly below the pendulum support. The
mass of the pendulum bob is m, the length of the pendulum is L, and the force
constant is k. The unstressed length of the spring is L/2 and the distance between
the floor and ceiling is 1.5L. The pendulum is pulled aside so that it makes an
angle θ with the vertical and is then released from rest. Obtain an expression for
the speed of the pendulum bob as the bob passes through a point directly below
the pendulum support.

I'll set point 1, when the pendulum is about to move and point 2, when it reaches the lowest point. Then use conservation of energy. I'm not sure, where to include the potential energy of the spring. Please, help.

When you pull it aside [to your point 1] the spring will be stretched - some stored energy there, and the bob will be further from the floor than when at point 2 so the extra height will give some PE gain..

When the bob passes through its lowest point [your point 2] there is no energy stored in the spring, and the extra height [so PE] has also gone.
Your conservation of energy should work from there.
 
Thank you, Peter. Now, it's clear.
 

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