Conservation of Energy Problem - Very Tricky

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a cart moving along a track and determining the angle at which it flies off the track. The context relates to the conservation of energy and the forces acting on the cart at the point of departure from the track.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply conservation of energy principles to relate the potential and kinetic energies of the cart. They derive a velocity expression just before the cart leaves the track and consider the forces acting on the cart at that moment.
  • Some participants question the forces acting on the cart as it leaves the track and the nature of its acceleration, prompting further exploration of centripetal force and gravitational effects.
  • Others suggest reconsidering the direction of centripetal acceleration and its implications for the forces involved.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback and prompting further analysis of the forces at play. There is a productive exchange regarding the relationship between gravitational force and centripetal acceleration, although no consensus has been reached on how to find the angle of departure.

Contextual Notes

The problem lacks specific numerical values or additional constraints, which may affect the analysis. Participants are navigating the implications of the conservation of energy and the dynamics of the cart's motion as it transitions from the track.

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Homework Statement



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At what angle does the cart fly off of the track?

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Homework Equations



I know that energy is always conserved (total energy before = total energy afterwards).


The Attempt at a Solution



Equation for energy before = energy after:

mgR + Ek = mgh + 1/2mv^2
mgR = mgh + 1/2mv^2 (h is the height above the ground just before the cart leaves the track)

gR = gh + 1/2v^2

v^2 = 2g(R-h) --> This is the velocity just before the cart leaves the track



The dotted line that we see is equal to R.

Thus, Fc (centripetal force) = mv^2/R

If the cart were to leave the track, Fn (normal force) would equal 0

Where do I go from here? Am i on the right track?
 
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So far so good. At the point where the cart leaves the track, what are the forces acting on it? What can you say about its acceleration at that point?
 
After it leaves the track the only force acting on it is gravity. Would I do: mg = mv^2/R

g = v^2/R

R = v^2/g

Plug in v^2 = 2g(R-h)

R = 2g(R-h)/g

R = 2R - 2h

R = 2h

How do I find the angle then?
 
doug1 said:
After it leaves the track the only force acting on it is gravity.
Good.
Would I do: mg = mv^2/R
Almost. What direction is the centripetal acceleration at the point that it leaves the track? Consider forces along that axis.
 

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