Conservation of Mechanical Energy in a ball of clay

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The problem involves a 50 g ball of clay colliding with a 1.0 kg block at rest on a frictionless surface, focusing on the conservation of mechanical energy during the collision.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the momentum conservation equation and its application to find the speed of the block after the collision. There is uncertainty about the correct expression for kinetic energy before and after the collision, with some questioning the setup and definitions used in the energy comparison.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the kinetic energy calculations and the comparison of initial and final energies. There are multiple interpretations of the energy expressions being discussed, and participants are exploring the implications of these calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of potential energy in this scenario and the need to express results in terms of the initial speed of the clay ball. There is also mention of confusion regarding the inclusion of certain variables in the equations.

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Homework Statement



A 50 g ball of clay traveling at speed v_0 hits and sticks to a 1.0 kg block sitting at rest on a frictionless surface.

a. What is the speed of the block after the collision?
b. Show that the mechanical energy is not conserved in this collision. What percentage of the ball's initial energy is "lost?"

The Attempt at a Solution



For part (a), I just said

m_1*v_0 = (m_1 + m_2)*v_1

0.05*v_0 = (0.05+1)*v_1

v_0 = 21*v_1

I'm hoping this is correct! Now, part (b) I'm not entirely sure of. I guess there is no PE in this case so I should show that

(.5)(m_1)(v_0)^2 \neq (.5)(m_1)(v_0)^2 + (.5)(m_1)(v_1)^2

Is this it? How do I go on about finding the percentage "lost"?
 
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octahedron said:
For part (a), I just said

m_1*v_0 = (m_1 + m_2)*v_1

0.05*v_0 = (0.05+1)*v_1
This is fine.
v_0 = 21*v_1
Not sure what happened here. Find v_1 in terms of v_0.

I'm hoping this is correct! Now, part (b) I'm not entirely sure of. I guess there is no PE in this case so I should show that

(.5)(m_1)(v_0)^2 \neq (.5)(m_1)(v_0)^2 + (.5)(m_1)(v_1)^2
This expression seems a bit mixed up. Find the initial KE (the left hand side). Find the final KE (you'll need the speed of the combined masses from part a). (Express everything in terms of v_0.)

Compare the two KEs and find their difference (the loss of KE). Then you can figure out what percentage of the original KE that loss is.
 
Is the right side of the equation your after? If it is, v_0 shouldn't figure into it, I don't believe.
 
Initial KE = Ei = 0.5*m1*Vo^2
Final KE = Ef = 0.5*(m1 + m2 )*V1^2
Show that Ef is not equal to Ei. And percentage loss = [(Ei -Ef)/Ei]*100
 
Thanks everyone, got it! :)

Supernats said:
Is the right side of the equation your after? If it is, v_0 shouldn't figure into it, I don't believe.
Oops! I didn't mean to include v_0 there. Sorry for the confusion.
 

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