Conservation of Momentum and energy problem help

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The discussion revolves around problems related to the conservation of momentum and energy, specifically involving two masses and their velocities, as well as a scenario involving a falling pile driver and its impact velocity.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the conservation of momentum equation and its rearrangement. Questions arise regarding the relationship between mass, velocity, and energy in the context of falling objects. There is also discussion about calculating potential and kinetic energy and how they relate to velocity.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using conservation of energy to solve the pile driver problem, while others are verifying calculations and discussing potential energy values. Multiple interpretations of the energy equations are being explored, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working with hypothetical numbers and scenarios, which may lead to confusion. There are also mentions of unit checks and the need for clarity in definitions, such as distinguishing between potential and kinetic energy.

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SOmeone explain to me this because I am lost. i got 2 masses one velecity. the equation is like is mass times volocity + mass times velocity=0

122kg*22m/s+14kg*v=0 I made these numbers up what i do is multiply and add then move my anwser to the other side becoming negative but that doesn't seem to be the right anwser.
 
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ki even tried multipling then dividing by the remaining number still gives me the wrong anwser
 
Generally;
[tex]M_{1}V_{1} + M_{2}V_{2} = 0[/tex]
Then Rearranging
[tex]V_{2} = - \frac{M_{1}V_{1}}{M_{2}}[/tex]
 
Ok i worked the first problem out now i have a nother problem




A 125kg pile driver falls from a hieght of 10m to hit a piling.

From this i see mass is 125kg and distance is 10m and it says find the speed it hits the piling? and the momentum how can i do this with just mass and distance or is distance really velocity?
 
Use conservation of energy. At 10m up the piledriver will have a potential energy of mgh. At the instant it hits the pile all the potential energy will be converted to kinetic [itex]\frac{1}{2}mv^2[/itex]. You should be able to work out the velocity by rearranging and hence the momentum.
 
i did 1/2*m moved it to the other side negative and ttok the square root and 7.91m/s
 
and the right anwser is 14m/s
 
I got a different answer. What value did you get for the potential energy?
 
Yes, I got 14m/s.
 
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12,250Newtons
 
  • #11
how?...
 
  • #12
Check you units. Newtons for energy? The value is correct. Now show me how you re-arrange the kinetic energy equation.
 
  • #13
do u have msn IM??
 
  • #14
No.....
 
  • #15
1/2 times 125 = 62/1/2 and i took the square root gives me 7.9
 
  • #16
[tex]E_{k} = \frac{1}{2} mv^2 \Rightarrow v = \sqrt{\frac{2E_{k}}{m}}[/tex]
 
  • #17
Whats Ek...
 
  • #18
kinetic energy
 
  • #19
potential got it
 
  • #20
The potential energy you calculated it would all be converted into kinetic energy. The same equation could be written
[tex]v = \sqrt{\frac{2mgh}{m}} \Rightarrow v = \sqrt{2gh}[/tex]
 
  • #21
ok... got it
 

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