Conservation of momentum and wood ball problem

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The discussion centers on calculating the maximum speed of a 0.900 kg projectile that can hit and embed itself in a 20.0 kg wood ball suspended by a 1.50 m wire without breaking the wire, which has a maximum tension of 300 N. The user attempted to apply the tension formula (T = mv²/r) and the conservation of momentum but encountered errors in their calculations. The correct approach requires incorporating gravitational forces into the net force analysis, as the tension must counteract both the gravitational force and the centripetal force when the projectile impacts the wood ball.

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Problem:
A 20.0 kg wood ball hangs from a 1.50 m-long wire. The maximum tension the wire can withstand without breaking is 300 N. A 0.900 kg projectile traveling horizontally hits and embeds itself in the wood ball.
What is the largest speed this projectile can have without causing the cable to break?

What I have tried:

I tried to use the tension formula (T = mv^2/r) along with the conservation of momentum formula.
First I tried:
v = sqrt(Tr/m) = sqrt(300*1.5/20) = 4.74
and then m1v1 = m2v2 = mfvf
so .9v = 20.9 *4.74 = 110.2 m/s which was wrong

then I tried:
v = sqrt(Tr/m) = sqrt(300*1.5/20.9) = 4.64
so .9v = 20.9 * 4.64 = 107.8, which is also wrong

Can anyone point out where I'm making a mistake? I think the theory is sound, but I can't figure out where I'm going wrong.
 
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The NET force is F=(mv^2)/r. The two forces acting on the hanging mass(es) are gravity and the tension in the wire. I cannot see that you've accounted for the former. Go back, draw a free-body diagram with the gravitational force included, and see where your thought leads you.

Amria said:
Problem:
A 20.0 kg wood ball hangs from a 1.50 m-long wire. The maximum tension the wire can withstand without breaking is 300 N. A 0.900 kg projectile traveling horizontally hits and embeds itself in the wood ball.
What is the largest speed this projectile can have without causing the cable to break?

What I have tried:

I tried to use the tension formula (T = mv^2/r) along with the conservation of momentum formula.
First I tried:
v = sqrt(Tr/m) = sqrt(300*1.5/20) = 4.74
and then m1v1 = m2v2 = mfvf
so .9v = 20.9 *4.74 = 110.2 m/s which was wrong

then I tried:
v = sqrt(Tr/m) = sqrt(300*1.5/20.9) = 4.64
so .9v = 20.9 * 4.64 = 107.8, which is also wrong

Can anyone point out where I'm making a mistake? I think the theory is sound, but I can't figure out where I'm going wrong.
 
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