The discussion revolves around the conservation of momentum in the context of Bronco diving from a hovering helicopter. Participants explore whether this scenario violates the principle of conservation of momentum, particularly considering the roles of external forces like gravity.
The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants suggest that gravity affects momentum conservation, while others question how to define the system to maintain conservation principles. There is no explicit consensus yet, but productive questions are being raised.
Participants note that for momentum conservation to hold, the system must be closed, and they discuss the implications of including external forces like gravity. There is uncertainty about the helicopter's momentum and how it changes when Bronco jumps.
Which do you think it is? For the one you choose, what explains how momentum is conserved?Hilarry said:no, this does not violate the c.o.m, because it is a closed system of the helicopter and Bronco? or is it a system between Bronco and the earth?
Hilarry said:conservation of momentum only occurs when no external forces are acting on the system, in this case, gravity is an external force affection the system, therefore increasing Bronco's momentum, his momentum is increasing while the momentum of the heli is constant, this breaks the conservation of momentum
Does this make sense?