Conservation of Momentum Involving Friction

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The problem involves the conservation of momentum in a scenario where a stationary block explodes into two pieces that slide across a frictionless surface and then encounter friction, leading to their eventual stop. The masses of the pieces and the coefficients of kinetic friction are provided, along with the distances they slide before stopping.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply conservation of momentum and energy principles to determine the mass of the original block. They raise questions about their calculations and the interpretation of the problem statement.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided feedback on the original poster's approach, suggesting that the misunderstanding may stem from the interpretation of the problem's request for the mass of "the block." The discussion reflects an ongoing exploration of the problem without a definitive resolution.

Contextual Notes

There is a potential ambiguity in the problem statement regarding whether the mass of the original block includes the masses of the two pieces after the explosion. This has led to some confusion in the calculations presented.

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Homework Statement


In the figure here, a stationary block explodes into two pieces L and R that slide across a frictionless floor and then into regions with friction, where they stop. Piece L, with a mass of 1.6 kg, encounters a coefficient of kinetic friction μL = 0.43 and slides to a stop in distance dL = 0.42 m. Piece R encounters a coefficient of kinetic friction μR = 0.39 and slides to a stop in distance dR = 0.48 m. What was the mass of the block?

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Homework Equations



Pi = PLf + PRf


The Attempt at a Solution




I started off assuming EmecR1 - fkdr = EmecR2 [no U involved]

then just after the explosion 1/2(mR)(vRi)^2 - (mR)(0.39)(g)(dr) = 0 [it comes to a stop]

I pull out mR and divide each side by mR to get 1/2(vRi)^2 - (.39)(g)(dr) = 0

then solve for vRi and I'm getting 1.9155 m/s


Next I do the same procedure for the Left block

1/2(1.6)(vLi)^2 - (1.6)(.43)(9.8)(.42) = 0

then vLi = -1.8814 [b/c block L is traveling in the negative x direction]


plugging into the conservation of momentum

Pi = 0 = (1.6)(-1.8814) + (mR)(1.9155)

then I get mR = 1.572 Kg but that's not right. Can anyone help me with this?
 
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Hi Goatsenator,

I don't see anything wrong with your physics or with your arithmetic. It could just be something really stupid: the problem asks for you to solve for the mass of "the block." Presumably this means the original block (before it exploded). So you'd have to add the answer you got to 1.6 kg to get the total block mass.
 
Oh man! I keep making these stupid mistakes! -_- I guess they could have been a little clearer. Oh well. Yeah that was right thank you for the help!
 
Goatsenator said:
Oh man! I keep making these stupid mistakes! -_- I guess they could have been a little clearer. Oh well. Yeah that was right thank you for the help!

You're welcome! :smile:
 

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