Conservation of momentum (neuclear decay)

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The discussion revolves around a problem in the context of conservation of momentum, specifically related to nuclear decay. A nucleus at rest decays into three particles, with two particles' masses and velocities provided, and the task is to find the momentum of the third particle.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss calculating the momentum of each particle and breaking down the momentum vectors into components. There are attempts to set the sums of the components equal to zero to apply conservation of momentum. Some participants question the calculations and the correctness of the results.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their calculations and questioning each other's results. There is no explicit consensus on the correct answer, and some guidance is offered regarding potential mistakes in calculations, particularly concerning the signs of the components based on the angles involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need to consider the quadrant in which the angles lie and the implications for the signs of the momentum components. There is also a suggestion that calculator settings may affect the results.

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Homework Statement


A certain nucleus at rest suddenly decays into three particles, two of which are charged and can be easily detected. The data gathered for these two particles is:
- Particle 1 has mass 2.93e-25 kg moving 5.69e+06 m/s at 69.5o.
- Particle 2 has mass 1.33e-25 kg moving 9.31e+06 at 221o.

Find the Momentum of the third particle
_____i km m/s + _____ j km m/s

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried first calculating the Momentum of each of the particles and then split the 2D momentum vectors into i and j

and then i set that the sum of all the i's = 0 and that the sum of all the j's = 0 since there aren't any external forces and momentum is conserved and then i tried solving for the missing i and the missing j.

I keep getting the answer wrong...

Thanks for your help
Aditya
 
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You method sounds OK. I cannot tell where is your mistake unless you show your work (or at least results)
 
Thanks for your reply...

This is what i have done:
my results came out to be
-2.38e-20 i kg m/s + -1.741e-18 j kg m/s
 
I don't get your results. As I said, if you show your work I could figure out where is your mistake.
Maybe you calculator is set on the "wrong" mode (radians instead of degrees)
 
well this is what i got
2.55e-18 j + 8.06e-19 j + yj = 0
y= -1.74e-18 j kg m/s

9.52e-19 i + (-9.28e-19) i + xi = 0
x= -2.37e-20 i kg m/s
 
I don't know how you calculate your components but I can say this much:
Something is not right. The second momentum (221 Deg) is in the third quadrant. Both x and y components must be negative. I don't see this in your components.
And your y component of the first momentum (2.55 e-18) seems to be larger than the whole momentum...
 
this is how I am getting the 1D values
m3v3 i = - (m1v1cosß +m2v2cosΘ)
m3v3 j= - (m1v1sinß +m2v2sinΘ)
 
hey i re-did the calculations and is this the right answer:
-2.11e-19 i kg m/s + -1.72e-18 j kg m/s
 

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