Consider the Electric Field E(t,x,y,z) = Acos(ky-wt)k

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The discussion revolves around the electric field described by the equation E(t,x,y,z) = A cos(ky - wt) k. Participants are tasked with finding the corresponding magnetic field and demonstrating certain properties of the electric and magnetic fields, specifically that the divergence of both fields is zero.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the curl of the electric field and its relation to the magnetic field, questioning how to derive the magnetic field from the given equations. There is uncertainty about the direction of the magnetic field and the calculations involved in finding the divergence of the electric field.

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Some participants have provided calculations for the curl of the electric field and are attempting to clarify the definitions of divergence and curl. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the electric and magnetic fields, with some guidance offered on the mathematical definitions involved.

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Participants express confusion regarding the calculations for divergence and curl, indicating a need for clarity on the mathematical operations involved. There is also a mention of assumptions about the unit vector direction in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement


Consider the Electric Field E(t,x,y,z) = A\cos(ky-wt)\hat{k}

a) Find the magnetic field such that \partial_t B + \nabla \times E = 0
b) Show that ##\nabla \cdot E = 0## and that ##\nabla \cdot B = 0##.

The Attempt at a Solution



So for part a, the curl of E = -\partial B / \partial t

Curl of E works out to be -Ak\sin(ky-wt) I think but then I'm not sure how you get the magnetic field.

For part b, div E = 0. I don't understand how to get this. I do the calculations and get -A*t*\sin(k*y - t*w) - A*y*\sin(k*y - t*w)? Where am I going wrong? I don't know how to do the second part at all, div B = 0.

Thanks in advanced
 
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Smazmbazm said:

Homework Statement


Consider the Electric Field E(t,x,y,z) = Acos(ky-wt)\hat{k}

a) Find the magnetic field such that \partial t B + \nabla \times E = 0
b) Show that \nabla \cdot E = 0 and that \nabla \cdot B = 0.

The Attempt at a Solution



So for part a, the curl of E = -\partial B / \partial t

Curl of E works out to be -Aksin(ky-wt) I think but then I'm not sure how you get the magnetic field.
The curl of a vector field is a vector field. What is the direction vector?

Find B by solving the equation you are given:
\nabla\times \vec{E}= -\frac{\partial\vec{B}}{\partial t}

For part b, div E = 0. I don't understand how to get this. I do the calculations and get -A*t*sin(k*y - t*w) - A*y*sin(k*y - t*w)? Where am I going wrong? I don't know how to do the second part at all, div B = 0.
div fi+ gj+ hk is f_x+ g_y+ h_z. n Here f and g are 0 while h is a function only of y and t, not z.

Thanks in advanced
 
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Hi Smazmbazm! :smile:

(i assume k is the unit vector in the z direction)
Smazmbazm said:
Curl of E works out to be -Aksin(ky-wt)

in which direction? :wink:
For part b, div E = 0. I don't understand how to get this. I do the calculations and get -A*t*sin(k*y - t*w) - A*y*sin(k*y - t*w)?

i'm not sure how you got that :confused:

div is simply ∂/∂x of the x coordinate + … + …

try again :smile:
 
Right so for the first part \nabla \times E = [\partial / \partial y Acos(ky - wt) - 0]\hat{i} + [\partial / \partial x Acos(ky - wt) - 0]\hat{j} + [0 - 0]\hat{k}.

\nabla \times E = -Aksin(ky - wt)\hat{i}, correct?

For b, right. I think I confused myself. The definition of div is \partial f / \partial x + \partial g / \partial y + \partial h / \partial z. Is that f, g and h referring to each direction? Like \hat{i}, \hat{j}, \hat{k}? If so, that makes more sense

Thanks guys
 
Smazmbazm said:
\nabla \times E = -Aksin(ky - wt)\hat{i}, correct?

correct :smile:
The definition of div is \partial f / \partial x + \partial g / \partial y + \partial h / \partial z. Is that f, g and h referring to each direction? Like \hat{i}, \hat{j}, \hat{k}?

yup, that's div(f,g,h) :smile:
 
Sorry the previous post should be \partial B / \partial t = -Aksin(ky - wt)\hat{i} rather then \<br /> \nabla \times E = -Aksin(ky - wt)\hat{i}

So to get the electric field you integrate -Aksin(ky - wt) with respect to t? Not sure where to go from there..
 
Smazmbazm said:
So to get the electric field you integrate -Aksin(ky - wt) with respect to t? Not sure where to go from there..

Now I'm getting confused …

isn't it the magnetic field that you want? :confused:

Yes, integrate ∂B/∂t wrt t, and you get B. :smile:
 
tiny-tim said:
isn't it the magnetic field that you want? :confused:

Yes, sorry, magnetic not electric. Ok, thanks tiny-tim
 

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