Considering French universities/Grande Ecoles

  • Context: Schools 
  • Thread starter Thread starter ZComet
  • Start date Start date
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the experiences and perceptions of studying in French universities and Grandes Écoles, particularly the ENS de Lyon. Participants share insights on the academic environment, student behavior, and the admission process, comparing it to institutions in the US and UK.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in attending the ENS de Lyon due to its reputation and rigorous curriculum, while also considering regular universities in France.
  • A participant with experience in French universities describes student protests that can disrupt classes, noting that exams remain unchanged despite these disruptions.
  • This participant also mentions that many students may attend classes without a clear career goal, particularly in their first year, although this may change with recent educational reforms.
  • Another participant suggests that the regular universities may not be a good option, reflecting on the previous comment.
  • There is a mention of a two-year preparatory program required for admission to Grandes Écoles, which includes French language training for non-French speakers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the quality of French regular universities, with some expressing skepticism while others suggest waiting for more opinions before making a decision.

Contextual Notes

Participants note uncertainties regarding the current state of French universities, particularly in relation to government policies and their impact on student experiences. There are also assumptions about the differences in academic culture compared to US and UK institutions.

ZComet
Messages
18
Reaction score
0
I am considering, among my other options, to go to France next year. My choice is the ENS de Lyon, which I have heard bears both a great reputation and a highly intensive curriculum. However in the event of failure to be admitted I may consider the regular universities, but I have read in many sources that the regular unis have a strong "party school" mentality.

Have anyone of you guys been to France and able to tell how things really are as compared to US or UK?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
I don't live there anymore since 2006 but my mother is professor in a French University (by the way I'm French and I have lived a bit more than half my life there).
I can tell you that when the Government make a choice that students really don't like, they would block the University until being heard. It can last months (3 months is not really surprising) and students don't have classes. However the final exams aren't reported nor easier than usual, so students have to learn by they own. When many students get upset of not being able to have classes, each University (entirely controlled by students during those time) make a pool in order to vote if they shall continue the blocking or not. The majority wins. So some Universities might return to a normal functioning while others don't, until an at least 1 week postponed time where a new pool takes place. And so on.
Since Sarkozy has been elected, I think each year many students lose around 1 month of classes.
I hope I didn't discouraged you. I can't compare with US or UK, but I'm pretty sure those events wouldn't happen at MIT. (They do happen at La Sorbonne however, not sure about the ENS de Lyon : I don't think it is sometime blocked but I can't assure you. You might ask yourself to people there).

My father who taught in Canada and France told me that as universities in France are free, many students that don't have a defined career goal sit down in classes for chat instead of studying. I think it might be true for the first year. But now with Sarkozy, I think the University is not free anymore so things might change a bit.

Good luck with the ENS of Lyon... I think it should be a very serious École.
 
Thanks for your reply fluidistic. It seems French regular unis isn't a good idea after all...
 
ZComet said:
Thanks for your reply fluidistic. It seems French regular unis isn't a good idea after all...

Don't make your decision/mind with a single voice. By this I mean to wait someone else to give his opinion.
 
Never been to an ecole myself, but there was someone representing the ecoles at my school. You have to go through a 2 year training program or something, in French. And if you don't know French they teach it to you concurrently. At the end of the 2 years, you have to take a test and your placement in the test decides where you get in.

At least, that's what the woman told us. :S
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
4K
Replies
8
Views
7K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
Replies
14
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K