Considering REU without research experience

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The discussion revolves around the considerations for applying to Research Experiences for Undergraduates (REUs) without prior formal research experience. Participants explore the implications of self-study and personal interest in the field of nanoelectronics, as well as the expectations of REU programs regarding research background.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about whether to list self-study in nanoelectronics on their REU application, questioning if it qualifies as research experience.
  • Another participant shares their experience, noting that they had minimal prior research before their REU, suggesting that previous research experience may not be a strict requirement for applicants.
  • Some participants mention that self-study could be included in the application, but caution against labeling it as research experience, emphasizing the importance of honesty in applications.
  • There is a query about the typical timeline for REU application deadlines, with some participants suggesting that these deadlines usually fall in February or March.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that self-study should not be classified as formal research experience, but there is no consensus on how to best present this information in applications. The discussion about application timelines also remains unresolved, with varying opinions on when to expect REU deadlines.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the specific requirements of REU programs and the variability in application processes across different institutions.

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Considering REU without "research" experience

Hello PF,

I know REU's are starting (or at least most of them) but I'm planning for the next summer. I researched a couple and read about what they consider for admission to their program. Most of them list "Research Experience" as such. I myself have yet to get into an undergrad research position.

My interests really lie in nanoelectronics but I haven't yet reached my upper division physics classes (chem/physics double major) so I just read about the field from books and try to see what its all about. While I can understand most of the concepts, the technical speak about DFT, Schrodingers Equation, and band theory and the like are a bit cloudy. Most of the research (i guess if you can call it that) i am doing is just reading and trying to come up with my own ideas and asking myself some questions.
I was wondering if I could list this type of work down when applying or if it would just be better to say "no research".

Thanks PF
 
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aspiring_one said:
Hello PF,

I know REU's are starting (or at least most of them) but I'm planning for the next summer. I researched a couple and read about what they consider for admission to their program. Most of them list "Research Experience" as such. I myself have yet to get into an undergrad research position.

My interests really lie in nanoelectronics but I haven't yet reached my upper division physics classes (chem/physics double major) so I just read about the field from books and try to see what its all about. While I can understand most of the concepts, the technical speak about DFT, Schrodingers Equation, and band theory and the like are a bit cloudy. Most of the research (i guess if you can call it that) i am doing is just reading and trying to come up with my own ideas and asking myself some questions.
I was wondering if I could list this type of work down when applying or if it would just be better to say "no research".

Thanks PF

My REU may have been my first research experience. I did some small things here and there before the REU, but nothing significant.

The school may ask for any previous research experience, but I doubt they require any previous research experience for their applicants.
 


I've been told that its a lot of hit and miss type stuff. Does anyone know when the dates for the next REU usually come out? I'm guessing sometime in the beginning of fall?

thanks for your reply
 


You can list self-study in your application, but I definitely wouldn't list it as research experience (because it's not). But you can always thread it into your cover letter or application, since it does show interest in going beyond just the coursework. This way I don't think it can hurt, as I'm pretty sure they actually look for people like that. So just don't state you've done something you haven't (i.e. research) and you'll be fine.
 


Ryker said:
You can list self-study in your application, but I definitely wouldn't list it as research experience (because it's not). But you can always thread it into your cover letter or application, since it does show interest in going beyond just the coursework. This way I don't think it can hurt, as I'm pretty sure they actually look for people like that. So just don't state you've done something you haven't (i.e. research) and you'll be fine.

Just what I was about to ask thank you.
 


aspiring_one said:
I've been told that its a lot of hit and miss type stuff. Does anyone know when the dates for the next REU usually come out? I'm guessing sometime in the beginning of fall?

thanks for your reply

If I recall correctly, apps for REUs are usually due around February or March. You can always visit the websites for the REUs you're interested in and see when the apps were due this year. Chances are, next year's apps will be due around the same time.
 

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