Constant acceleration proof, dv/dt=a

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The discussion revolves around the concept of constant acceleration in physics, specifically focusing on the relationship between velocity, acceleration, and time as described in the context of a textbook. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the derivative of the velocity equation and its implications.

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the derivative of the velocity equation and questions whether the book implies that dv/dt equals acceleration only at t = 0. Other participants discuss the nature of derivatives of constants and clarify the misunderstanding regarding the application of the product rule.

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Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the mathematical reasoning behind the derivative of the velocity equation. Some guidance has been offered regarding the treatment of constants in differentiation, and the original poster acknowledges a shift in understanding.

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There is an acknowledgment of the constant nature of acceleration, which plays a crucial role in the discussion. The original poster reflects on their previous misconceptions regarding the product of variables in the context of differentiation.

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My book has stumped me on something that I thought should be simple... perhaps I'm just not getting it.

Section - Constant Acceleration

It states the following:

"When acceleration is constant, the average acceleration and instantaneous acceleration are equal and we can write...

a = aavg = (v-v0)/(t-0)

Here v0 is the velocity at time t = 0 and v is the velocity at any later time t. We can recast this equation as:

v = v0 + at (Eq. 2-11)

As a check, note that this equation reduces to v = v0 for t = 0, as it must. As a further check, take the derivative of Eq. 2-11. Doing so yields dv/dt = a, which is the definition of a."

I'm not catching the last (bold) part. The derivative of equation 2-11 being equal to a.

When I work out the derivative (in my mind) is should work like this:

dv/dt = at
=a't + at'
=1(t) + a(1)
= t + a

My mind is leaning towards the idea that the book is trying say that dv/dt = a, at t = 0. Is that what the book is trying to tell me? Because I think I'm just confusing myself.

Any proof of this would probably help me out.

Thanks, prior!
 
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What is the derivative of f(t)=2 with respect to t? The derivative of f(t)=c, where c is some constant? Here, a is just another constant.
 
Yeah I'm not really sure why you think this:

dv/dt = at
=a't + at'
=1(t) + a(1)
= t + a

works.

Here's how you should see it. Equation 2-11 shows v as a function of time with initial velocity v0. In other words,

v(t) = v = v0 + at

Take the first derivative with respect to time. v0 is a constant and derivative of a constant is zero. a is also a constant and the derivative of a constant times a variable is the constant itself. So...

v'(t) = a
 
That did it, I was thinking of at as being the product of two variables... instead of say, dv/dt = 6t = 6 for example... now THAT I can understand.

Thanks for the help, it's been a few years...
 
Beamsbox said:
That did it, I was thinking of at as being the product of two variables... instead of say, dv/dt = 6t = 6 for example... now THAT I can understand.

Thanks for the help, it's been a few years...

Ah I see so you were using the product rule to get = t + a

Well, good that you understand now :)
 
Funny actually, now that I think about it, I'm in the CONSTANT ACCELERATION section... CONSTANT... doh!

Thanks again!
 

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