Constant Scalings of 4-Vectors" - Zweibach, 2nd Ed.

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The discussion revolves around the concept of constant scalings of 4-vectors as presented in the book "A First Course in String Theory" by Barton Zweibach. Participants explore the implications of scaling components of vectors, particularly in relation to the sign of the squared norm of these vectors, within the context of string theory and tangent vectors on a worldsheet.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that "constant scalings" refer to multiplying all components of a vector by the same constant factor, questioning the effect on the sign of the vector's squared norm.
  • Others clarify that the discussion may involve scaling just one component of the vector, which complicates the understanding of the problem.
  • One participant suggests that the expression ##\frac{\partial X^\mu}{\partial \tau}+\lambda\frac{\partial X^\mu}{\partial \sigma}## defines tangent vectors, but to represent every vector, a constant scaling factor ##A## must be included.
  • A concrete example is provided where an arbitrary tangent vector can be expressed as a linear combination of two linearly independent vectors, leading to a discussion on the relationship between different tangent vectors and their scalings.
  • Another participant notes that while specific tangent vectors may not be equal, there exists a value of ##\lambda## such that one vector is proportional to another, emphasizing that constant scalings do not affect the classification of vectors as timelike or spacelike based on the sign of their squared norm.

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Participants express varying interpretations of the concept of constant scalings and their implications for vector norms. There is no consensus on the exact nature of the scalings or their effects, indicating ongoing debate and exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the definitions of tangent vectors and the conditions under which scalings are applied. Some mathematical steps remain unresolved, particularly regarding the implications of scaling one versus all components of a vector.

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Constant scalings of a vector do not matter to decide if a vector is timelike or spacelike.
Could anybody prove this statement ?
If anybody has studied the book:

A First course in String Theory - Barton Zweibach - 2nd edition

This statement is present in 6th chapter of book on pg 110
 
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AhmadKhaqan said:
Could anybody prove this statement ?

I assume "constant scalings" just means multiplying all components by the same constant factor. What effect would this have on the sign of the vector's squared norm?
 
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PeterDonis said:
I assume "constant scalings" just means multiplying all components by the same constant factor. What effect would this have on the sign of the vector's squared norm?
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PeterDonis said:
I assume "constant scalings" just means multiplying all components by the same constant factor. What effect would this have on the sign of the vector's squared norm?
If it was about multiplying all of the components by the same constant factor, then the answer was intuitively clear, but the problem here is that, we are not multiplying all of the components with a constant vactor, instead we are multiplying just one component with a constant factor. Let me post the complete problem.
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I think it's saying that ##\frac{\partial X^\mu}{\partial \tau}+\lambda\frac{\partial X^\mu}{\partial \sigma}## defines tangent vectors in every direction in the worldsheet, but not every vector. To get every vector you would need to write ##A\left(\frac{\partial X^\mu}{\partial \tau}+\lambda\frac{\partial X^\mu}{\partial \sigma}\right)##, where ##A## is just a constant scaling of the vector. Presumably the modulus of the vector isn't important to the argument they're making (just the sign of its square), so they arbitrarily set ##A=1## and simplify the maths a bit.
 
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AhmadKhaqan said:
Constant scalings of a vector ...
Consider the following concrete example.

Since ##\frac{\partial X^\mu}{\partial \tau}## and ##\frac{\partial X^\mu}{\partial \sigma}## are linearly independent, an arbitrary tangent vector ##u## can be expressed as

$$u = a \frac{\partial X^\mu}{\partial \tau} + b \frac{\partial X^\mu}{\partial \sigma}$$

for real constants ##a## and ##b##.

Let

$$v\left(\lambda\right) = \frac{\partial X^\mu}{\partial \tau} + \lambda \frac{\partial X^\mu}{\partial \sigma},$$

and suppose ##a=2## and ##b=3##, so that

$$u = 2 \frac{\partial X^\mu}{\partial \tau} + 3 \frac{\partial X^\mu}{\partial \sigma}.$$

Then, for every ##\lambda##, we have ##v\left(\lambda\right) \ne u##, but when ##\lambda = 3/2##, we have ##v = u/2##. In other words, ##v\left(\lambda\right)## is never equal to this specific tangent vector ##u##, but there is a value of ##\lambda## such that ##v\left(\lambda\right)## is proportional to ##u##.
 
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George Jones said:
Consider the following concrete example

So in this example, ##u## would be a "constant scaling" of the vector you get by setting ##\lambda = 3/2##, i.e., ##v(3/2)##; specifically, we have ##u = 2 v(3/2)##. And the statement "constant scalings do not matter to decide if a vector is timelike or spacelike" just means that both ##u## and ##v(3/2## have the same sign of their squared norm, i.e., they are either both timelike or both spacelike (or both null). And the same would be true for any vector that could be obtained from ##u## or ##v(3/2)## by multiplying both components by the same constant factor.
 
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