Constructing an interval by uniting smaller intervals

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The discussion revolves around the construction of an interval C defined as the union of smaller intervals C_n = [1 - 1/n, 2 - 1/(2n)]. Participants are tasked with describing the interval C and proving its properties, particularly regarding its endpoints and the inclusion of the number 2.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the reasoning behind the inclusion or exclusion of the endpoint 2 in the interval C. Questions are raised about the limits of the expressions defining the intervals and the implications of convergence as n approaches infinity.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning assumptions about the interval's endpoints and exploring the implications of convergence. Some guidance has been offered regarding the reasoning behind the limits, but no consensus has been reached on the final characterization of the interval C.

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Participants are navigating the definitions of supremum and maximum in the context of the intervals, with some expressing uncertainty about how to prove the properties of the interval C. The nature of the union of intervals and the behavior of the limits as n increases are central to the discussion.

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We have C_n = [1-\frac{1}{n},2-\frac{1}{2n}] and C = C_1 \cup C_2 \cup C_3 \cup ... and are asked to describe the interval C and then prove that it is actually what we say it is.


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I am guessing that C = [0,2) and to prove this, I need to show that the infimum and minimum is 0, supremum is 2, maximum does not exist.

Am I right in describing this interval? And what other features of this interval would I need to prove in order to prove my description is valid?
 
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Why do you think 2 is not included in the interval? What is the limit of 2-(1/2n)? If 2 is not included,

in C, can 2- 1/2n converge to 2?
 
Bacle2 said:
Why do you think 2 is not included in the interval? What is the limit of 2-(1/2n)? If 2 is not included,

in C, can 2- 1/2n converge to 2?

I don't really understand what you mean. 2 cannot be in C because 2-1/2n -> 2 as n -> ∞, so C_n = (1,2) as n -> ∞, wouldn't it?
 
Whistlekins said:
I don't really understand what you mean. 2 cannot be in C because 2-1/2n -> 2 as n -> ∞, so C_n = (1,2) as n -> ∞, wouldn't it?
I doubt that Bacle2 is saying that 2 is in interval C. He's just asking how to prove that you can have both
2 is not in C.

and

##\displaystyle \lim_{n\to\infty}(2-1/(2n))=2 ## ?​
 
SammyS said:
I doubt that Bacle2 is saying that 2 is in interval C. He's just asking how to prove that you can have both
2 is not in C.

and

##\displaystyle \lim_{n\to\infty}(2-1/(2n))=2 ## ?​

Well, now I have no idea.

How else could I show that 2 is not in C? Unless 2 IS in C...
 
If I make A the set of all maxima of all C_n = \{ 2-\frac{1}{2n}\} for all natural numbers n,

Then the maximum of this set A does not exist since it is infinite. However the least upper bound would be the limit = 2. Am I correct in thinking this?

Then sup(C) = sup(A) = 2. Is this reasoning correct?
 
Sorry if my statement was not clear. What I meant was that if 2 were included in the union, then it would be in some of the intervals, by def. of union. Then, re this last, the issue of convergence ,and (2-1/2n) being strictly increasing, come into play.
 
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