Continuous Fractions: Solving for k Limitations - Martin

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The discussion revolves around continued fractions, specifically examining the limitations of a formula related to the values of k in the context of generating sequences. The original poster, Martin, is exploring whether certain values of k, particularly k=0 and values between 0 and -1, can be included in the continued fraction despite not producing the same patterns as other values.

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  • Participants question the definition of t_n and its relation to the nth convergent, with some suggesting that k=0 leads to an undefined situation in the sequence. Others discuss the implications of having a constant sequence when k=0 and whether this affects the convergence of the continued fraction.

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The discussion is active, with participants clarifying definitions and exploring the implications of different values of k. There is acknowledgment that k=-1 is a problematic value, while the potential inclusion of k=0 is debated. Some participants suggest that a constant sequence can still be considered convergent.

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There is a focus on the definitions and assumptions surrounding the continued fraction and its convergence, particularly regarding the behavior of the sequence for specific values of k. The original poster has also indicated a need for proofreading their extensive work on the topic.

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Hi there all smart people!
I'm doing some work on continued fractions of this type:
http://viitanen.se/cf.gif
I'w worked out an formula for the exact value of tn and I'm now looking for limitations for that formula...
K≠-1 is one limitation since it will give dev. by 0.
My question now is:
Is k=0 a possible value, it gives the same value for all tn, i.e. 1. Though, it does not generate the same pattern as other values of k.
Is a value between o and -1 a possible value for k? These does not give the same pattern as other values.
Note that I get the right answer for the value of tn using the formual, my question is simply if they are a part of the continuos fraction even if they don't follow the same pattern on the graph?


Please answer asap!
//Martin
 
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Is t_n supposed to be the nth convergent? How are you defining the nth convergent here anyway? The usual way would make this undefined for k=0, the sequence of convergents usually looks like:

k

k+\frac{1}{k}

k+\frac{1}{k+\frac{1}{k}}

etc.

So what is your t_n?
 
tn is the nth value of the continued fraction.

tn+1 is defined as:
tn+1=k+(1/tn)


The problem is that I don't know if k=0 gives an continuous fraction since it only gives one value for tn, independent of the n value.
 
So t_0=k? This is the usual way, but then with k=0 you have t_0=0, and t_1=k+\frac{1}{t_0}=0+\frac{1}{0}, which is undefined.
 
Our continuous fraction starts at t1...

So that t1=k+1
so if k=0, the first value would be 1
but the thing is that all the others would also equal 1

There is only one undefined value for k, which is -1, since it gives dev by 0.
 
Calavera said:
Our continuous fraction starts at t1...

So that t1=k+1


Alright, that's why I was asking what t_n was. It looked like you had a different definition for the nth convergent and I just wanted to be sure.

Calavera said:
so if k=0, the first value would be 1
but the thing is that all the others would also equal 1

That shouldn't be a problem. A continued fraction is said to be convergent if the sequence of nth convergents is convergent. The constant sequence is convergent, so no problem.
 
Ok, thank you really much! :)

Finally I'm done with my 16 pages and 2728 word long work about this...now I only need someone who can proofread it.
 

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