Continuous spectrum and weak solution of eigenvalue equation

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The discussion revolves around the continuous spectrum of a densely defined closed operator A in a Hilbert space, particularly focusing on the existence of solutions to the eigenvalue equation in the sense of distributions. Participants explore the implications of approximate eigenvectors and the conditions under which these solutions may exist.

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  • Participants discuss the nature of approximate eigenvalues and the conditions necessary for the existence of a functional T in the dual space D*(A). Questions arise regarding the convergence of sequences and the implications of the topology being used.

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The conversation has evolved to recognize the complexity of the problem, with references made to established theorems such as the Gelfand-Maurin theorem. Some participants suggest further reading and resources, indicating a productive exchange of ideas without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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There is mention of the need for a deeper understanding of the topology on D(A) and the implications of the operator A being Hermitian. Participants also note the extensive literature surrounding the topic, suggesting that the proof may not be straightforward.

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Hi All!

Preliminaries: Let H denote the Hilbert-space, and let A be a densely defined closed operator on it, with domain $D(A) \subset H$. On D(A) one defines a finer topology than that of H such way that f_n->f in the topology on D(A) iff both f_n->f and Af_n->Af in the H-topology. Let D*(A) denote the topological dual of D(A) with respect to this topology. (This is kind of a starting point to create a Rigged Hilbert Space generated by A). Anyway, I don't want to go into too much details, one can look up A. Bohm: Quantum Theory: Foundations and Applications, Chapter 1 for further details.

Suppose that $z \in \mathbb{C}$ is in the continuous spectrum of A, ie (A-zI)^{-1}, exists, densely defined, but unbounded, ie there is a sequence f_n in D(A) (not convergent in general) such that f_n-s are normed to 1, and (A-zI)f_n->0. Then for every $\varepsilon>0$ there is an $n_\varepsilon$ such that if $n>n_\varepsilon$ we have $||(A-zI)f_n||<\varepsilon$, where ||.|| denotes the Hilbert-space norm. So we have approximate eigenvectors.

Now the question is the following. Can anyone prove - or tell me where the proof can be found - that if z is in the continuous spectrum, then the equation Af=zf has a solution in the sense of distributions (in D*(A)), ie there is some functional $T \in D*(A)$ that for every $f \in D(A)$ the equation

<T|(A-zI)f>=0

holds?

The proof should be simple, I mean I don't want to read through all the 5 volumes of Gelfand-Shilov :smile: . If someone knows the book
Kreyszig: Introductory Functional Analysis with Applications, as far as I remember he mntioned this result within, without proving it...

Cheerio,

Peter
 
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It seems to me you'd want to invoke your sequence of approximate eigenvalues. e.g. something in the spirit of

[tex] \langle T | := \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \langle f_n |.[/tex]
 
well,

[itex]\langle (A-zI)f_{n} \vert \phi \rangle \rightarrow 0[/itex]

is definitely true, but it does not mean that

[itex]\langle f_{n}\vert \right.[/itex]

converges weak-* to a nonzero functional, which would require

[itex]\forall \; \phi\in D(A)\quad \langle f_{n}\vert \phi \rangle=\langle T \vert \phi \rangle[/itex]...
 
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You mean

[tex]\forall \; \phi\in D(A)\quad \lim_{n \rightarrow +\infty} \langle f_{n}\vert \phi \rangle=\langle T \vert \phi \rangle[/tex]

don't you? Isn't that guaranteed by the topology you're using?

I think the easiest way to show [itex]\langle T[/itex] nonzero is to actually find a ket satisfying [itex]\langle T | x \rangle \neq 0[/itex]. If [itex]\langle T[/itex] really were an eigenbra, then how would you do it?

(I don't know that you can do either. This might be the right answer, but my main point is that something in this spirit is going to be how to do this problem)

P.S. Are you assuming A to be Hermetian?
 
Well, after some reading it turns out that the result is not trivial at all. Basically my proposition I wanted to show is called Gelfand-Maurin theorem, or Nuclear Spectral Theorem, and it states that for every number in the spectrum of A there is a generalised eigenvector, ie a distributional solution of the eigenvalue equation (of course for the point spectrum, the proper eigenvectors are also generalised eigenvectors). For further reading see

R. de la Madrid et al., Fortschr. Phys. 50, 185, (2002), quant-ph/0109154

and references therein.

So basically it is many years' work done by many people, no wonder I couldn't cope in 3 days... :smile:

Cheers,

Peter

ps.: the proof there does not use at all the sequence I've mentioned before !
 
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You can also search for Rafael de la Madrid's PhD thesis which is available online. It provides a wealth of information.

Daniel.
 

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