Contracting operators in Wick diagrams

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The discussion revolves around the application of Wick diagrams and the contraction of operators within quantum field theory, specifically focusing on nucleon and meson fields. Participants explore the implications of Wick's theorem, the nature of contractions, and the treatment of tadpole diagrams in various contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why the adjoint nucleon field and the nucleon field are not contracted with themselves in the examples from Ticciati and Coleman's notes.
  • Another participant explains that Wick's theorem indicates that contractions occur when the interchange of two operators results in a nonzero commutator/anticommutator, noting that for fermion fields, the relevant anticommutators are zero.
  • Discussion arises about contracting fields at the same spacetime point, with one participant mentioning that this results in a "tadpole" Feynman graph, which can be renormalized to remove its contribution to scattering amplitudes.
  • There is a mention of the contribution of tadpoles being zero in certain theories, with one participant recalling that this is discussed in later lectures.
  • Another participant discusses the implications of including specific operators in the context of renormalization and how they relate to the overall contributions in diagrams.
  • Participants express uncertainty about the treatment of odd-term interactions and the necessity of certain contractions in calculations.
  • One participant seeks assistance with including contraction symbols in LaTeX, indicating a practical concern related to the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and implications of contracting certain fields, particularly regarding tadpole diagrams and their contributions. There is no consensus on the treatment of these contractions, and the discussion remains open-ended.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference specific sections of Ticciati's book and Coleman's notes, indicating that their understanding is based on these materials. There are mentions of renormalization conditions and the treatment of vacuum expectation values, which may depend on the specific theories being discussed.

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This discussion may be useful for students and researchers interested in quantum field theory, particularly those studying Wick diagrams, operator contractions, and renormalization techniques.

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Hi, I'm currently going through Ticciati's book along with the notes from Sidney Coleman's course and I have a question pertaining to Wick diagrams/expansion of S.
In their example (section 4.3 of Ticciati and lecture 9 in Coleman's notes) they never seem to contract the adjoint nucleon field with itself nor the nucleon field with
itself; i.e., you only see contractions of \psi^\dagger (x_1) <br /> with \psi (x_2) while you do see contractions of the meson field with itself, \phi(x_1) contracted with \phi(x_2). Why is this so,
why not contract the adjoint nucleon field with itself, why not contract the nucleon field with itself? Also, what happens if you contract two appropriate fields at the
same spacetime point, e.g., \psi^\dagger (x_1) contracted with \psi(x_1)? It appears, from the formula for their contraction, that if you contract the two the resulting integral
should be

<br /> \lim_{\epsilon \rightarrow 0}\int \frac{d^4 k}{(2\pi)^4} e^{-ik\cdot (x-x)}\frac{i}{k^2 - m^2 +i\epsilon} = \lim_{\epsilon \rightarrow 0}\int \frac{d^4 k}{(2\pi)^4} \frac{i}{k^2 - m^2 +i\epsilon}<br />
which, I believe, is -1/2m. Finally, does anyone know how to include the contraction symbols in latex? Thanks for your time.
 
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why not contract the adjoint nucleon field with itself, why not contract the nucleon field with itself?
Wick's theorem tells us how to convert a time-ordered product into a normal-ordered product. A contraction occurs each time the interchange of two operators results in a nonzero commutator/anticommutator. But for a fermion field, {ψ(x), ψ(x')} = {ψ(x), ψ(x')} = 0.
 
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Also, what happens if you contract two appropriate fields at the
same spacetime point, e.g., \psi^\dagger (x_1) contracted with \psi(x_1)?
This is perfectly possible--the resulting Feynman graph is called a "tadpole". However, for three-point interactions, momentum conservation dictates that the edge leading into the tadpole will carry 0 momentum, and renormalization can be used to remove their contribution to the scattering amplitude, so one generally doesn't worry about them.

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Finally, does anyone know how to include the contraction symbols in latex? Thanks for your time.
As I recall, there is no easy way to do it. I think Peskin and Schroeder have a section on their website or something where they discuss how they did it in their book, but that's just a dim recollection of mine.
 
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@ Bill_K - Duh, thank you for pointing out the P.B. relations for the complex field.
@Chopin - Thanks. Could you do the same for all odd-term interactions?
 
Not all odd-term interactions, but all diagrams or sub-diagrams with a single external line. These diagrams are higher-order contributions to the vacuum expectation value of the field, \langle 0 | \phi | 0 \rangle. This term is 0 in a noninteracting theory, so that condition is maintained in an interacting theory by making it a renormalization condition. You said you're looking in Coleman's notes--search for the term "tadpole" and you should see a discussion of it in the renormalization section later on.

If you're just going through all of this for the first time, it's probably not worth worrying about too much right now. Just proceed under the assumption that making those contractions is a perfectly acceptable thing to do, and later on you'll learn why in practice you don't have to worry about it.
 
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Ok, I see that later on (lecture 16) he shows that the total contribution of the tadpoles, possibly for a specified theory, is zero - just skimmed ahead and read a few sentences so I'm not sure of the proof, but I'm sure it's exactly as you mentioned. Just to make sure I'm understanding what you're saying, suppose H_I = g \psi^\dagger \psi \phi then at order g^2 I will have an operator \overline{\psi^\dagger(x_1) \psi(x_1)} : \phi(x_1)\psi^\dagger(x_2)\psi(x_2)\phi(x_2) :, among many others, but I'll see later on that this term can be ignored?
 
Correct. Roughly, you'll end up defining a new object A, called a counterterm, that you'll add to your set of diagrams, such that its first-order term A_1 will be defined as A_1 + \overline{\psi^\dagger(x_1)\psi(x_1)} = 0.

So then, in addition to the term that you mentioned, you'll also have another term A_1: \phi(x_1)\psi^\dagger(x_2)\psi(x_2)\phi(x_2): to work with, meaning that when you add all the diagrams up, you'll have \overline{\psi^\dagger(x_1)\psi(x_1)} : \phi(x_1)\psi^\dagger(x_2)\psi(x_2)\phi(x_2): + A_1: \phi(x_1)\psi^\dagger(x_2)\psi(x_2)\phi(x_2): = (\overline{\psi^\dagger(x_1)\psi(x_1)} + A_1) : \phi(x_1)\psi^\dagger(x_2)\psi(x_2)\phi(x_2): = 0
 
Thank you so much.
 
Incidentally, since you're using Coleman's notes...it may interest you to know if you don't already that Harvard recorded his lectures of that course one year, and a while back they made the videos publicly available online. You can find them all at http://www.physics.harvard.edu/about/Phys253.html. I'm an armchair physicist only, so going through those videos has been my primary source of education on the topic. I highly recommend them--in addition to being a fantastic lecturer, the man was downright hilarious.
 

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