Contrast Between Different Colors

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the perception of color contrasts, particularly in relation to changes in color schemes used by a cable company. Participants explore the scientific basis for color distinction, focusing on human visual perception and the effects of color combinations on readability.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that colors farther apart in the spectrum are easier to distinguish than those closer together, questioning if this is correct.
  • Another participant agrees with the idea of complementary colors, implying that they support the initial theory.
  • A participant notes that the issue is more related to human eye perception rather than the physics of light detection, suggesting the discussion may be more suited for a biology forum.
  • It is mentioned that brightness differences are generally easier to distinguish than hue differences, emphasizing the importance of testing color schemes in grayscale.
  • One participant discusses the principle of 'opponent coding' in color vision, explaining the distinct pathways for red-green and blue-yellow color opponency.
  • A participant elaborates on the brightness ratios between colors, indicating that the perceived brightness of light green compared to black significantly affects color discrimination.
  • Another participant connects the discussion to the evolutionary aspects of color vision, noting the historical development of color perception in mammals.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the factors influencing color distinction and readability. There is no consensus on the best explanation for the observed difficulties in distinguishing colors.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on assumptions about human perception and the biological mechanisms of color vision, which may not be universally applicable. The discussion also highlights the complexity of color perception, including the influence of brightness and evolutionary factors.

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Hi, All:

My cable company recently changed its color setup, and I'm having trouble distinguishing

information from the background. I was wondering if there is some scientific basis for

my preferences, and to explain my problems. Specifically, e.g., the timer/clock used to

consist of white numbers in a black background. I had no trouble making up the numbers

from the background. Now the numbers and letters are still in white, but the background

is sometimes blue, sometimes light green, and I'm now having trouble distinguishing

the letters/numbers from the background. My theory (with little basis) is that a pair of colors that

are farther appart in the spectrum are easier to distinguish than a pair that is closer. Is this

correct?
 
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Bacle2 said:
Hi, All:
My theory (with little basis) is that a pair of colors that

are farther appart in the spectrum are easier to distinguish than a pair that is closer. Is this

correct?
Yes... I'm pretty sure that's what complementary colours are.
 
I have moved this out of the physics forum. Take note that light detectors that can detect such a spectrum have no difficulties in making that distinction. So this has more to do with the human eye perception. That is why the question is more relevant in the biology forum than in the physics forum.

Zz.
 
Bacle2 said:
My theory (with little basis) is that a pair of colors that are farther appart in the spectrum are easier to distinguish than a pair that is closer.
Brightness differences are easier to distinguish than hue differences, even for people which are not color blind. A good screen designer always tests if his color scheme works well in grayscale mode too. This ensures that it doesn't relay on hue differences to create contrasts.
 
Bacle2 said:
<snip> My theory (with little basis) is that a pair of colors that

are farther appart in the spectrum are easier to distinguish than a pair that is closer. Is this

correct?

Color vision appears to use the principle of 'opponent coding': that is, not only are there 'direct' RGB outputs from the individual cones, but there are also neurons that divide one signal from another. Red-green color opponency has been localized to the parvocellular layers within the lateral geniculate nucleus, but blue-yellow color opponency appears to occur with its own special pathway (the koniocellular pathway), suggesting that red-green and blue-yellow vision systems developed independently.

Visual thresholds for color has been studied much than brightness thresholds, there is not a lot of data out there.
 
Original black/white colours have high brightness ratio. In human perception brightness is dominated by the red-green colour range more than the blue. If you switch from white/black to white/light green then while for white to black you have a brightness ratio of 1 to 0, to light green you have a ratio of 1 to perhaps 0.75, light green being white with (say) 50% red and 50% blue removed; the blue does not count towards brightness so the perceived brightness is 50% red plus 100% green, a mean of 75%.
That would drop discrimination by a factor of four.
 
Andy Resnick said:
Color vision appears to use the principle of 'opponent coding': that is, not only are there 'direct' RGB outputs from the individual cones, but there are also neurons that divide one signal from another. Red-green color opponency has been localized to the parvocellular layers within the lateral geniculate nucleus, but blue-yellow color opponency appears to occur with its own special pathway (the koniocellular pathway), suggesting that red-green and blue-yellow vision systems developed independently.

Interesting since that fits in with evolution of colour vision where the mammals that ran about during the age of dinosaurs, lost colour vision due to being noctural. They then regained colour vision as dichromats. Most mammals are still dichromats but catarrhine apes and Old World monkeys are trichromatic suggesting they regained 3-colour vision in two separate events.
 

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