Converge/Diverge: Summation 1 to ∞ (2*4*6*8*...*(2n)) / (n!)

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The discussion revolves around the convergence or divergence of the series defined by the summation from 1 to infinity of the expression (2*4*6*8*...*(2n)) / (n!). Participants are exploring the implications of applying the ratio test to this series.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to apply the ratio test and are questioning the cancellation of terms in the limit. There is confusion regarding the interpretation of the series and the simplification of the terms involved.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the ratio test's application, with some participants expressing uncertainty about their calculations. Multiple interpretations of the limit are being discussed, and guidance has been offered regarding the correct approach to the limit calculation.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express confusion about specific parts of the series notation and the implications of the ratio test, indicating a need for clarification on the terms involved in the summation.

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Homework Statement



summation 1 to infinity (2*4*6*8*...*(2n)) / (n!)

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I'm a little confused on the "..." part... I used the ratio test and the numbers obviously cancel out, but I am not sure if the (2n+2)/(2n) part cancel out to just make (2n+2) on the top. This would make the limit equal to 2 and it would diverge. But I am not entirely sure if that's right...
 
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It looks like you want to know if the following sum converges or diverges:
[tex]\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{2^n n!}{n!}=\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}2^n[/tex]
That should be pretty easy.
 
I don't see how you rewrote it like that. Would my method of using the ratio test work? And if so how exactly would the top partion cancel out.
 
meson0731 said:
I don't see how you rewrote it like that.

Try thinking about it. The ratio test works but is overkill for this problem.

Would my method of using the ratio test work? And if so how exactly would the top partion cancel out.

The ratio test works, but you messed up calculating it. (Hint: The ratio is 2).
 
meson0731 said:

Homework Statement



summation 1 to infinity (2*4*6*8*...*(2n)) / (n!)

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I'm a little confused on the "..." part... I used the ratio test and the numbers obviously cancel out, but I am not sure if the (2n+2)/(2n) part cancel out to just make (2n+2) on the top. This would make the limit equal to 2 and it would diverge. But I am not entirely sure if that's right...

You said you were confused about the "..." part, so I just thought that I would mention that the [itex]n^{th}[/itex] term in the sum is [itex](2*4*\cdots*(2n))/n![/itex].

Perhaps you knew this, but since you said you were confused by the "..." and jgens simplification, I thought you might be overlooking this.
 
jgens said:
Try thinking about it. The ratio test works but is overkill for this problem.



The ratio test works, but you messed up calculating it. (Hint: The ratio is 2).

When i did the ratio test i did get 2 for the limit. Does this mean that I did it right?
 
meson0731 said:
When i did the ratio test i did get 2 for the limit. Does this mean that I did it right?

Depends. In the OP you wrote something about [itex]\lim_{n \to \infty}\frac{2n+2}{2n} = 2[/itex]. In this case the limit is correct but the ratio is not. You should get [itex]\lim_{n \to \infty} 2 = 2[/itex].
 
jgens said:
Depends. In the OP you wrote something about [itex]\lim_{n \to \infty}\frac{2n+2}{2n} = 2[/itex]. In this case the limit is correct but the ratio is not. You should get [itex]\lim_{n \to \infty} 2 = 2[/itex].

I just realized that I wrote it wrong :rolleyes: . I got lim as x > infinity of (2n+2)/(n+1) which is 2.
 
meson0731 said:
I just realized that I wrote it wrong :rolleyes: . I got lim as x > infinity of (2n+2)/(n+1) which is 2.

Then you solved the problem correctly :)
 
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jgens said:
Depends. In the OP you wrote something about [itex]\lim_{n \to \infty}\frac{2n+2}{2n} = 2[/itex]. In this case the limit is correct but the ratio is not. You should get [itex]\lim_{n \to \infty} 2 = 2[/itex].

Wait, what? The limit doesn't look right to me...

[tex]\lim_{n \to \infty}\frac{2n+2}{2n} = \lim_{n \to \infty}\frac{2n}{2n} + \lim_{n \to \infty}\frac{2}{2n} = 1 + \lim_{n \to \infty}\frac{1}{n} = 1[/tex]

Right?
 
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Robert1986 said:
Wait, what? The limit doesn't look right to me...

[tex]\lim_{n \to \infty}\frac{2n+2}{2n} = \lim_{n \to \infty}\frac{2n}{2n} + \lim_{n \to \infty}\frac{2}{2n} = 1 + \lim_{n \to \infty}\frac{1}{n} = 1[/tex]

Right?

Yep. My bad.
 

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