Converge or diverge of factorials

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The discussion revolves around determining the convergence or divergence of the series \(\sum\frac{37}{n!}\). Participants explore the implications of factorials in series and consider various tests for convergence.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the nature of the series, with some attempting to simplify it by focusing on \(\sum\frac{1}{n!}\). There is confusion regarding the classification of series, particularly between p-series and factorial series. The use of the ratio test and comparison tests is suggested, with some participants expressing uncertainty about these methods.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants questioning each other's reasoning and definitions. Some guidance on using the comparison test is provided, and there is an exploration of the relationship between factorial growth and exponential functions. However, there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take.

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Participants mention a lack of familiarity with the ratio test and express uncertainty about proving certain inequalities related to factorials. There is also a reference to using graphical interfaces to support their arguments.

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Determine whether the series converges or diverges.

[tex]\sum\frac{37}{n!}[/tex]


I will just forget about the 37, and think of it as [tex]\sum\frac{1}{n!}[/tex]

I can try to decompose the n!

n! = n(n-1)!
n! = n ( n-1) (n-2)!
n! = n(n-1)(n-2)(n-3)...2*1


so [tex]\sum\frac{1}{n!}[/tex] = [tex]\sum\frac{1}{n(n-1)!}[/tex]

=

[tex]\frac{1}{n}[/tex] *[tex]\frac{1}{(n-1)!}[/tex]

since 1/n is a p-series and diverges so does the series.

Is this right ?
 
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That's not a p-series. A p-series looks like 1/n^p. Use a ratio test.
 
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Don't know what a ratio test is. Isn't 1/n a p-series because

1/n = 1/n^1 ?
 
Your series isn't 1/n but 1/n!, can you see the difference?
 
yes but

its 1/n * 1 / (n-1)!

if one term diverges, does not the other because Infinity * whatever != converge
 
Well, nope!

1/n*1/n^2=1/n^3. this series obviously converges, by applying p-test

Eventhough the first one alone(the harmonic series diverges)

Moreover: 1/n*1/n both alone diverge but when multiplied together they converge , 1/n^2 according to p-test again.
 
ok, so how do I go about this. Since I haven't learned ratio test yet
 
I assume you have learned the comparison tests, right? since this is one of the first tests you learn when you are introduced to numerical series.

first prove that:

[tex]n!>2^n[/tex] for some n>k, where k is a positive integer, and then use this fact and the comparison theorme to show that your series converges.
 
From using a graphical interface k = 4.

not sure how I can prove it.

I could try this :(induction)

0! = 1
1! = 1
2! = 2
3! = 6
4! = 24
5! = 120

2^1 = 2
2^2 = 4
2^3 = 8
2^4 = 16
2^5 = 32
 
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well, since n!>2^n, for say n>2, then it follows that

1/n!<(1/2)^n, and you probbably know that the RHS is a geometric sequence whose ratio is r=1/2<1, so it converges, now from the comparison test, we know that the series sum(1/n!) converges as well .
 

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