Convergent sequence property and proving divergence

In summary, for a sequence to be divergent, it must fail the \varepsilon,\delta definition of convergence.
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Sun God
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I feel like I'm missing something obvious, but anyway, in the text it states:

lim as n→∞ of an+bn = ( lim as n→∞ of an ) + ( lim as n→∞ of bn )

But say an is 1/n and bn is n. Then the limit of the sum is n/n = 1, but the lim as n→∞ of bn doesn't exist and this property doesn't work...


Second thing, I was reading an example of how to prove a sequence is divergent, specifically the sequence [(-1)n], and the text proves it by contradiction. "Take any positive number [itex]\epsilon[/itex]<1. Then the interval (a - [itex]\epsilon[/itex], a + [itex]\epsilon[/itex]) has length less than 2. Therefore, it is not possible to have both odd and even terms of sequence in this interval, therefore the sequence [(-1)n] cannot converge to a."

Why does not being able to possesses both odd and even terms in that interval mean that the sequence doesn't converge? It seems like a random leap of logic to me...
 
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  • #2
Sun God said:
I feel like I'm missing something obvious, but anyway, in the text it states:

lim as n→∞ of an+bn = ( lim as n→∞ of an ) + ( lim as n→∞ of bn )

But say an is 1/n and bn is n. Then the limit of the sum is n/n = 1, but the lim as n→∞ of bn doesn't exist and this property doesn't work...

The theorem should properly be written as "If [itex]\lim_{n \to \infty}a_n[/itex] and [/itex]\lim_{n \to \infty}b_n[/itex] exist, then [itex]\lim_{n \to \infty} (a_n + b_n) = (\lim_{n \to \infty} a_n) + (\lim_{n \to \infty} b_n)[/itex].

Now notice [itex]n < n + n^{-1}[/itex]. So [itex]n + n^{-1}[/itex] diverges as [itex]n \to \infty[/itex].

Second thing, I was reading an example of how to prove a sequence is divergent, specifically the sequence [(-1)n], and the text proves it by contradiction. "Take any positive number [itex]\epsilon[/itex]<1. Then the interval (a - [itex]\epsilon[/itex], a + [itex]\epsilon[/itex]) has length less than 2. Therefore, it is not possible to have both odd and even terms of sequence in this interval, therefore the sequence [(-1)n] cannot converge to a."

Why does not being able to possesses both odd and even terms in that interval mean that the sequence doesn't converge? It seems like a random leap of logic to me...

A sequence [itex]\{x_n\}_{n \in \mathbb{N}}[/itex] converges to [itex]x[/itex] if and only if for every open neighborhood [itex]U[/itex] of [itex]x[/itex], there exists an [itex]N \in \mathbb{N}[/itex] such that [itex]x_n \in U[/itex] whenever [itex]N \leq n[/itex]. The example shows that regardless of which [itex]x \in \mathbb{R}[/itex] you choose, there is an open neighborhood of [itex]x[/itex] which does not contain infinitely many of the [itex]x_n[/itex]. This means that [itex]\{x_n\}_{n \in \mathbb{N}}[/itex] does not converge.
 
  • #3
Thanks for the prompt response!

Okay, so to try to simplify it/put it in more understandable phrasing (for my own sake): for a sequence to be proven divergent, I just have to show that for any x there is an open neighborhood of x such that the sequence does not have infinitely many terms contained in that neighborhood?
 
  • #4
Sun God said:
Okay, so to try to simplify it/put it in more understandable phrasing (for my own sake): for a sequence to be proven divergent, I just have to show that for any x there is an open neighborhood of x such that the sequence does not have infinitely many terms contained in that neighborhood?

That is correct. More explicitly a sequence [itex]\{x_n\}_{n \in \mathbb{N}}[/itex] converges to [itex]x[/itex] if and only if for all [itex]0 < \varepsilon[/itex] there exists [itex]N \in \mathbb{N}[/itex] such that [itex]N \leq n[/itex] implies [itex]|x_n - x| < \varepsilon[/itex]. This means that the sequence [itex]\{x_n\}_{n \in \mathbb{N}}[/itex] does not converge to [itex]x[/itex] if and only if there exists [itex]0 < \varepsilon[/itex] such that for all [itex]N \in \mathbb{N}[/itex] there is some [itex]N \leq n[/itex] such that [itex]\varepsilon < |x_n - x|[/itex]. This is all just the standard [itex]\varepsilon,\delta[/itex] stuff that you learn in basic calculus classes.

Now let's look at the non-convergent case again. What it is saying is that we can find an [itex]0 < \varepsilon[/itex] such that no matter how big we choose [itex]N[/itex], we can always find an [itex]N \leq n[/itex] with [itex]x_n \notin (x-\varepsilon,x+\varepsilon)[/itex]. From here it is pretty easy to work out this the open neighborhood [itex](x-\varepsilon,x+\varepsilon)[/itex] does not contain infinitely many of the [itex]x_n[/itex].
 

FAQ: Convergent sequence property and proving divergence

What is the definition of a convergent sequence?

A convergent sequence is a sequence of numbers that approaches a single limit as the number of terms in the sequence increases. This means that as the terms of the sequence get closer and closer together, they eventually become infinitely close to the limit.

How is the convergence of a sequence proven?

To prove the convergence of a sequence, it is necessary to show that the terms of the sequence get closer and closer to a single limit as the number of terms increases. This can be done by using the definition of a convergent sequence and showing that the difference between consecutive terms approaches zero as the number of terms increases.

What is the difference between a convergent sequence and a divergent sequence?

A convergent sequence approaches a single limit as the number of terms increases, while a divergent sequence does not have a limit and the terms either increase or decrease without bound. In other words, a convergent sequence has a finite limit, while a divergent sequence either has no limit or a limit at infinity.

Can a sequence be both convergent and divergent?

No, a sequence can only be either convergent or divergent, but not both. If a sequence has a limit, it is considered convergent. If a sequence does not have a limit, it is considered divergent.

How is the divergence of a sequence proven?

To prove the divergence of a sequence, it is necessary to show that the terms of the sequence do not approach a single limit as the number of terms increases. This can be done by showing that the difference between consecutive terms does not approach zero, or by showing that the terms increase or decrease without bound.

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