Convert repeating decimal to improper fraction

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The original poster attempts to convert the repeating decimal 23.588 (where 88 is repeating) into an improper fraction. The problem involves understanding geometric series and manipulation of repeating decimals.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss breaking down the decimal into its components and using geometric series to find a solution. There are questions about the correct representation of the series and the steps involved in manipulating the equations.

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Some participants have offered alternative methods for solving the problem, including a more straightforward approach involving subtraction of equations. There is an ongoing exploration of different interpretations and methods without a clear consensus on the best approach.

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Participants question the setup of the problem, particularly the representation of the repeating decimal and the assumptions made in the calculations. There is also mention of the original poster's uncertainty regarding the method to use.

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Homework Statement



Convert 23.588 (the 88 is repeating) to an improper fraction.


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I don't have any.


The Attempt at a Solution



I'm not sure of the best way to go about this so I've taken a method that I've seen on some problems that were more simple as they didn't have the 23.5 in front of the repeating decimal.

I see that this can be broken down into:

23 + .5 + 8/10 + 8/10(1/10) + 8/10(1/10)^2...etc.

Although, I'm really not sure how to collapse the infinite progression of 8/10(1/10)^n into an actual number.

I've tried plugging 8/10 in for 'a' and 1/10 in for 'r' in the infinite progression equation:

a/(1-r)

This results in 8/9 then adding 1/2 to that we get 25/18 and then adding 23 to that I get 439/18

However, this result is not correct.

Any help/suggestions are welcome. Thank you for your time!
 
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you have:
23 + .5 + 8/10 + 8/10(1/10) + 8/10(1/10)^2...etc.

needs to be:
23 + .5 + 8/100 + 8/100(1/10) + 8/100(1/10)^2...etc.

This corresponds to a geometric series with a=8/100 and r=1/10

so the fraction would be the sum of the series (using a/(1-r)) plus 23.5

23.5+ (8/100)/(1-1/10)=23.5+8/90=47/2+8/90=2123/90
 
Ohh, of course I'd make a silly mistake like that...

Thanks!
 
There's an easier way, as a matter of fact.

Let a=23.5888... (I'm using ellipses to represent repeating decimals.)
Then 10a=235.888...
and 100a=2358.888...
Subtraction will get rid of our repeating decimal.
Therefore, 90a=2123
a=2123/90.

23.5888...=2123/90

I got this from Numbers, Rational and Irration by Ivan Niven, which I recommend. It doesn't use any advanced mathematics.
 
How did you jump from 100a=2358.888 to 90a=2123?
 
oddjobmj said:
How did you jump from 100a=2358.888 to 90a=2123?

100a-10a


good call on the easier way.
 
a=8/10

10*a=8

You'd obviously get 90a on the left but how do I know to use 10 and multiply by 100 and how does 2358.888888888888 - 8 = 2123?
 
a=23.5888...
not 8/10.

I have no idea where you got that from.

Anyway, if

a = 23.588...
10a = 235.88...
100a = 2358.88...

Notice now that if we do 100a-10a, the 8's repeating will cancel each other out.

2358.888...
-235.888...
=2123.00...
=2123

But 100a-10a=90a, so if 90a=2123 then a=2123/90.

Try it in the calculator :smile:
 
If you have a single digit repeating infinitely it can be reduced to finding the representation of .111...

You should be able to find that with a bit of playing.
 
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Awesome :D Thank you jtyler, brainy, mentallic, and integral!

These techniques will all help me significantly on my test/exam coming up.
 
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No problem. Glad to help.
 

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