Converting Complex Numbers to Trigonometric Identities

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around converting complex numbers to trigonometric identities, specifically focusing on expressing the function 2/(1 + z) in the form 1 - i tan(kx). The scope includes mathematical reasoning and exploration of trigonometric identities.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty with trigonometric identities and seeks guidance on the problem.
  • Another participant suggests using the exponential form of z, z = e^{ix}, and provides a formula for tan(kx) involving complex exponentials.
  • A participant questions the validity of a specific identity mentioned, stating it is not found in their math tables.
  • One participant proposes a method involving the complex conjugate to simplify the expression 2/(1 + z) and provides a step-by-step approach.
  • Another participant agrees with the suggested method and emphasizes its effectiveness, while also noting the need for further simplification to reach the desired form.
  • A participant reflects on the realization that the half-angle identities could be useful in completing the transformation to the required form.
  • One participant suggests an alternative approach by manipulating the expression 1 - (2/(z+1)) to derive the necessary results.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the effectiveness of using the complex conjugate method, but there are differing opinions on the best approach to reach the final form. Some methods are preferred over others, and no consensus is reached on a single solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of familiarity with polar forms and higher-level mathematics, which may influence their approaches and understanding of the problem. There are also references to specific trigonometric identities that may not be universally recognized.

Joza
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I was never good at trigonometric identities.


Let z= cos x + i sin x

Express 2/(1 + z) in the form 1 - i tan kx



I need help. A pointer to where to start would be great.
 
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[tex]z=e^{ix}[/tex]

and
[tex]\tan(kx)=\frac{1}{2i}\cdot\frac{e^{ikx}-e^{-ikx}}{e^{ikx}+e^{ikx}}[/tex]
 
I'm sorry, but I have never seen that identity before. It's not in my math tables?
 
Do you know that [itex]tan z= \frac{sin z}{cos z}[/itex]? Replace sin z with [itex](e^{ix}-e^{-ix})/2i[/itex] and cos z with [itex](e^{ix}+ e^{-ix})/2[/itex]

I would have been inclined to do this problem more directly. Write 2/(1+ z) as
[tex]\frac{2}{1+ cos x+ i sin x}= \frac{2}{(1+cos x)+ i sin x}[/tex]
and multiply both numerator and denominator by the "complex conjugate", (1+ cos x)- i sin x.
 
I'm sue Joza hasnt seen polar form yet...HallsofIvys method is the best way for you.
 
No I understand polar form. And yes I understand that tan is sin/cos. I haven't done 3rd level mathematics yet though.
 
O well that's good then, Halls's method is still the way to go though.
 
Gib Z said:
O well that's good then, Halls's method is still the way to go though.

That seemed the most obvious way to proceed to me as well. I was going to post exactly that but Tim beat me to it, then I decided I liked his way better.

Here's the reason. If you follow through with the "conjugate" method and simplify as much as possible you end up with,

[tex]\frac{2}{1+z} = 1 - i \, \frac{\sin(x)}{1+\cos(x)}[/tex].

While this is tantalizingly close to the form that OP requires it's still not quite there. To finish off you need to be able the see that you can use the following two trig identities (on the numerator and denominator respectively),

[tex]\sin(x) = 2 \sin(x/2) \cos(x/2)[/tex]

and

[tex]1 + \cos(x) = 2 \cos^2(x/2)[/tex].

This last step wasn't too obvious to me, actually I didn't even see it at first. It was only after working through Tim’s method that I realized that "k" had to be equal to 1/2 and then the half angle substitutions idea came to me.
 
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actually... just look at
[tex]1-\frac{2}{z+1}=\frac{z-1}{z+1}[/tex] alone with the identity will give you everything.
 

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